compare SOHC VTEC
06-08-2002, 01:16 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (4-1-1)
just curious but...serious about what?? its a hobby i think we should all have fun 
ask mista bone about SOHC hes da man (i think hehe)
ask mista bone about SOHC hes da man (i think hehe)
06-08-2002, 04:06 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (4-1-1)
SOHC VTEC engines have much potential with a turbo. My little brother's will be running 11's soon.
[Modified by LSDelSol, 10:06 PM 6/8/2002]
[Modified by LSDelSol, 10:06 PM 6/8/2002]
06-08-2002, 10:25 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC
a b16a2 would be the easy route, but whats wrong with going with D series? your one of those people who just have that mentality that B is better and D's slow. they are probably are, but you can do alot of things to any motor. have fun, learn, and watch your self get smoked by a hatch with a d16.
ps. i got a b16 in a crx and selling the car pretty soon.
So someone answer my question!?????!!
ps. i got a b16 in a crx and selling the car pretty soon.
So someone answer my question!?????!!
06-08-2002, 10:27 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (alphaquake)
would a d16z6 complete head, a d16a6 bottom end (mini-me) and a EX Transmission would be a little faster than a stock d16z6 engine?
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06-08-2002, 12:04 PM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (meams)
I dont like my D16...im swappin in a B16
06-08-2002, 12:11 PM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (RedlineUBRF)
God Damn it how many of these threads are we going to argue about SOHC vs. DOHC?
This thread wasn't even comparing the SOHC to DOHC, yet some *** comes in and says some inflammatory anti-SOHC crap and here we go again.
Each set-up has it's advantages - SOHC and DOHC - so let's just leave that debate alone and focus on the guy's question.
So, why are you thinking that a D16A6 bottm with D16Z6 head would be better than a full D16Z6 motor?
What would the CR be like with that head on that D16A6 block?
What are you going to use this et-up for, and what are you long term goals?
Why not just boost the D16A6?
Just curious...
This thread wasn't even comparing the SOHC to DOHC, yet some *** comes in and says some inflammatory anti-SOHC crap and here we go again.
Each set-up has it's advantages - SOHC and DOHC - so let's just leave that debate alone and focus on the guy's question.
So, why are you thinking that a D16A6 bottm with D16Z6 head would be better than a full D16Z6 motor?
What would the CR be like with that head on that D16A6 block?
What are you going to use this et-up for, and what are you long term goals?
Why not just boost the D16A6?
Just curious...
06-08-2002, 12:11 PM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (4-1-1)
Swap in a B16A2 if your serious.....
06-08-2002, 12:14 PM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (B18C5-EH2)
God Damn it how many of these threads are we going to argue about SOHC vs. DOHC?
I hear you man. I have seen more of these threads on different boards than I can remember, but I think they are always going to pop up around once a week as long as this board exists. Just try to ignore them I suppose.
06-08-2002, 12:22 PM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (B18C5-EH2)
God Why not just boost the D16A6?
Just curious...
Just curious...
I like D series motors, but the easy accessability of B series parts makes the B's so much easier to work with.
GO DOHC
GO SOHC
Wheeeeee!!!
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06-08-2002, 01:22 PM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (shawnhayes)
The "argument" of SOHC vs. DOHC shouldn't be such a mystery.
The DOHC motor will outpower the SOHC motor if they have the same turbo set-up, but if you cannot or will not afford it, then what good is it to compere the two?
The only fair debate to me would be boosted SOHC vs. NA DOHC. Each set-up has it's advantages, and each could very well cost the same by the end of the spending on them.
It all depends on what you want, and more importantly how much you are willing to spend.
If you want THE fastest set-up for the least amount of money, then you will probably want to boost a SOHC VTEC motor. It may not be as reliable as a good old DOHC swap with bolt-ons, but in the same car a 200whp SOHC will whip a 150whp DOHC motor in the end.
Now which one will handle extremely hard driving, auto-X and road racing, or full-throttle runs on twisty backroads for extended periods of time better?
The choice is yours.
I just caught myself debating the very same damn thing I was trying not to, but when you see others making "points" you like to tell yours too I guess.
[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 5:26 PM 6/8/2002]
The DOHC motor will outpower the SOHC motor if they have the same turbo set-up, but if you cannot or will not afford it, then what good is it to compere the two?
The only fair debate to me would be boosted SOHC vs. NA DOHC. Each set-up has it's advantages, and each could very well cost the same by the end of the spending on them.
It all depends on what you want, and more importantly how much you are willing to spend.
If you want THE fastest set-up for the least amount of money, then you will probably want to boost a SOHC VTEC motor. It may not be as reliable as a good old DOHC swap with bolt-ons, but in the same car a 200whp SOHC will whip a 150whp DOHC motor in the end.
Now which one will handle extremely hard driving, auto-X and road racing, or full-throttle runs on twisty backroads for extended periods of time better?
The choice is yours.
I just caught myself debating the very same damn thing I was trying not to, but when you see others making "points" you like to tell yours too I guess.
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06-08-2002, 01:24 PM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (shawnhayes)
I was one of those people who didn't believe in SOHC's either until my friend got his first gen crx running. He's got the mini-me vtec setup, with a turbo manifold we made out of 1 3/4" piping, and a subaru wagon turbo on there, he's totally stock internals and all. He's running about 7 lbs of boost non-intercooled and this car rips!!! No joke, He beats me by about a car in my ls/vtec hatch that's in the mid 13's so he's getting close to the 12's, And that's with piecing stuff together, not even building it.!!! I still personally would never go SOHC, it just seems like more work but i do give props to those who can whoop on a b16 or gsr.
06-09-2002, 03:23 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (B18C5-EH2)
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So, why are you thinking that a D16A6 bottm with D16Z6 head would be better than a full D16Z6 motor?
What would the CR be like with that head on that D16A6 block?
What are you going to use this et-up for, and what are you long term goals?
Why not just boost the D16A6?
Just curious...
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well it was out of curiosity and i was planning to mill the EX head and slap it on to a d16a6 block , and the EX tranny, that i will pick up at a yard. my cousin said here and gave me a bottom end, so just the tranny i need.
not planny to go too fast....... yet. something to experiment since i got these parts laying around, y not? selling my rex with a b16a1 maybe january 03 to buy a, you knoooooow.. B18c5? 
put that in my sol and experiment on the d16 in the 93hatch... i wanna know the CR with that setup! and and boosting cool but too much money to spend right now, cuz im Type Ready...
i definately know for a fact someone is going to say, "just get a B16, it will save time and money"
and its faster than Dees Nuts 
"""""" ha ha, fock it, thats life, im a little buzzed so if i said anything stupid corrected me. ive been typing this crap for a while and trying not to make my self a fool with this response, ok.....peaceeeee 
So, why are you thinking that a D16A6 bottm with D16Z6 head would be better than a full D16Z6 motor?
What would the CR be like with that head on that D16A6 block?
What are you going to use this et-up for, and what are you long term goals?
Why not just boost the D16A6?
Just curious...
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well it was out of curiosity and i was planning to mill the EX head and slap it on to a d16a6 block , and the EX tranny, that i will pick up at a yard. my cousin said here and gave me a bottom end, so just the tranny i need.
not planny to go too fast....... yet. something to experiment since i got these parts laying around, y not? selling my rex with a b16a1 maybe january 03 to buy a, you knoooooow.. B18c5? put that in my sol and experiment on the d16 in the 93hatch... i wanna know the CR with that setup! and and boosting cool but too much money to spend right now, cuz im Type Ready... i definately know for a fact someone is going to say, "just get a B16, it will save time and money"
and its faster than Dees Nuts """""" ha ha, fock it, thats life, im a little buzzed so if i said anything stupid corrected me. ive been typing this crap for a while and trying not to make my self a fool with this response, ok.....peaceeeee
06-09-2002, 03:48 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (alphaquake)
i'm sick of people telling me to go DOHC. i think my only reason to stay SOHC is just to prove all these guys wrong. i mean i can go DOHC and fit in, or go SOHC have a blast trying to take down my friends, i dunno SOHC is more exciting, getting a slow motor to something it was never ment to do. and they are so cheap, i can have like 3 motors in 15 min for like $50. i love it.
06-09-2002, 05:22 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC ( anger)
had a mini me wanted to throw up
if you want to talk to somebody who has gone through the good
and the bad with a sohc
let me know
if you want to talk to somebody who has gone through the good
and the bad with a sohc
let me know
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06-10-2002, 06:22 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (Mista Bone)
Check out this site, http://pub34.ezboard.com/bhondadseries
Very helpful and they are all about sohc. You can actually ask a question about sohc and wont have to see it end up into a sohc vs dohc debate.
Very helpful and they are all about sohc. You can actually ask a question about sohc and wont have to see it end up into a sohc vs dohc debate.
06-10-2002, 07:10 AM
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Re: compare SOHC VTEC (Ales)
IMO I'm working with the SOHC mainly because my budget doesn't have the capacity to afford a $2-3K swap right now. The turbo setup I'm working on will cost me about $1500 w/ intercooler, bigger injectors, fuel pump, vafc, yada yada ya. I would have LOVED to have a DOHC motor but I really can't afford one. The way I look at it... the point is to be fast... how you do it is ur choice.
Also if I win with the SOHC I can brag that the person got beat by a lowly d-series and if i lose... i can have the excuse "Hey man... it's only a SOHC"
Also if I win with the SOHC I can brag that the person got beat by a lowly d-series and if i lose... i can have the excuse "Hey man... it's only a SOHC"
06-10-2002, 07:49 AM
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i'm sick of people telling me to go DOHC. i think my only reason to stay SOHC is just to prove all these guys wrong. i mean i can go DOHC and fit in, or go SOHC have a blast trying to take down my friends, i dunno SOHC is more exciting, getting a slow motor to something it was never ment to do. and they are so cheap, i can have like 3 motors in 15 min for like $50. i love it.
Oh yea, that's on street tires too.
06-10-2002, 08:49 AM
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I don't feel SOHC has alot of potential......
Swap in a B16A2 if your serious.....
Swap in a B16A2 if your serious.....