Clutch going bad
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Clutch going bad
I noticed that my clutch engaged a lil later than usual this morning on my way to work. Now when i was going home from work i almost had the clutch pedal pressed all the way to the floor just to shift gears. Is my clutch going out? Is it safe to drive it for just a few more days before the weekend until i change it if it is the clutch. Any ideas? the gears dont slip it just that its been engaging later, alot later than before. The car is a 94 dx with a d16z6.
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Thats a wierd problem, that always happens to me when i first install a clutch and forget to bleed it. Might wanna bleed the clutch first. Does your cars rpms slip around at all or does it feel like its keeping power?
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if it's a new clutch, you might need to tighten the pressure plate slightly... if not and the engagement point was lower previously, then you might wanna start saving for a new clutch setup...
if your clutch starts slipping or there's almost no freeplay, you can give it some play by adjusting the master cylinder rod by the clutch pedal
the mc rod doesn't change the enagement point as many seem to believe and if there's no freeplay there will be no engagement point since the plate is lifted off the disc and the clutch will slip.. the only thing it does is to allow you to change freeplay... you can use that in order to change pedal height as well.... if you move the clutch pedal closer to the floor there will be less free play so you will need to adjust it..
feel free to correct me if i made a mistake... it's late and i'm tired
if your clutch starts slipping or there's almost no freeplay, you can give it some play by adjusting the master cylinder rod by the clutch pedal
the mc rod doesn't change the enagement point as many seem to believe and if there's no freeplay there will be no engagement point since the plate is lifted off the disc and the clutch will slip.. the only thing it does is to allow you to change freeplay... you can use that in order to change pedal height as well.... if you move the clutch pedal closer to the floor there will be less free play so you will need to adjust it..
feel free to correct me if i made a mistake... it's late and i'm tired
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Re: (civic_driver)
Yeah, the description is kind of hard to decipher, but what I am gathering is that you are not able to "Release" the clutch when the pedal is all the way to the floor.
Here is a general rule of thumb.. if your clutch is not slipping, then it is fine. If you are not able to release the clutch, then you either have a.) Air in your lines, or b.) too much freeplay between your throwout bearing and the pressure plate.
To fix a.) Simply bleed the system. Look for leaks near the firewall (Both sides) near the clutch master cylinder, and at the slave cylinder (Which is bolted on the tranny near the bell housing, and check for fluid leaks in the lines themselves.
To fix b.) Sometimes lengthening the pushrod will alleviate freeplay. To do this, go under the dash where the clutch pedal bolts onto the firewall. You will see a brass colored rod that goes from the pedal into your clutch master cylinder. It is threaded and has a nut and two pronged looking fork on the end. Remove the clip and pin that holds it to the clutch pedal and swing the pedal out of the way. Loosen the nut and turn the two pronged looking fork thing counter-clock wise which will lengthen the pushrod. Try about 4 threads at first. Put everything back together and you will have changed your clutch release point. BEWARE: If you adjust it too much, your release point could be too early. Typically, it should be about 1-1.5 inches of clutch pedal depression, so adjust accordingly, and to your taste.
I hope this helps you.
Here is a general rule of thumb.. if your clutch is not slipping, then it is fine. If you are not able to release the clutch, then you either have a.) Air in your lines, or b.) too much freeplay between your throwout bearing and the pressure plate.
To fix a.) Simply bleed the system. Look for leaks near the firewall (Both sides) near the clutch master cylinder, and at the slave cylinder (Which is bolted on the tranny near the bell housing, and check for fluid leaks in the lines themselves.
To fix b.) Sometimes lengthening the pushrod will alleviate freeplay. To do this, go under the dash where the clutch pedal bolts onto the firewall. You will see a brass colored rod that goes from the pedal into your clutch master cylinder. It is threaded and has a nut and two pronged looking fork on the end. Remove the clip and pin that holds it to the clutch pedal and swing the pedal out of the way. Loosen the nut and turn the two pronged looking fork thing counter-clock wise which will lengthen the pushrod. Try about 4 threads at first. Put everything back together and you will have changed your clutch release point. BEWARE: If you adjust it too much, your release point could be too early. Typically, it should be about 1-1.5 inches of clutch pedal depression, so adjust accordingly, and to your taste.
I hope this helps you.
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Re: (Cuda70)
thanks for the insight, the clutch doesnt slip at all, i just find it odd that the cluth engages when the pedal is almost all the way pressed when the day before it was no where near that when it engaged
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Re: (civic_driver)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_driver »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mean it disengages very close to the floor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Clutch going bad (91b16acrx)
My bet is that either or both the clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder has gone bad (seals are letting the hydraulic fluid bleed by). Generally it is a good idea to replace both even if only one has failed. They both have the same number of cycles and if one has failed the other can't be far behind.
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in that case i would start with bleeding the clutch system and if it doesn't fix it or the problem comes back after a little while then i would look for leaks in the master and slave clutch cylinders
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Re: (civic_driver)
thanks guys, my friend told me to put more brake fluid in the cltuch reservoir thing and the reservoir was almost bone dry when i checked. Clutch pedal feels alot better now but we'll see how long it last
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91b16acrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks guys, my friend told me to put more brake fluid in the cltuch reservoir thing and the reservoir was almost bone dry when i checked. Clutch pedal feels alot better now but we'll see how long it last</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like you have a leak somewhere. An empty reservoir would allow air into the system, and that would explain your symptoms. Look for leakage at your clutch slave.
Sounds like you have a leak somewhere. An empty reservoir would allow air into the system, and that would explain your symptoms. Look for leakage at your clutch slave.
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