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Old 03-20-2006, 03:05 AM
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i just finished swapping my 94 gsr motor into a 95 cx hatch, and it wont start, or even turn over. that battery isnt dead, and we even tried jumping it, when i turn the key the battery light is on and all the lights dim a little. dont hear the fuel pump turn on or anything..... anyone have any ideas? what about that resistor box, should i leave that plugged in or do i not need it w/ the gsr motor? any help would be GREAT
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Did you check to make sure the ECU is plugged in. Check all the grounds like the one on the tranny, valve cover, starter, etc... Check to make sure you have all the sensors on the intake manifold correct cause I've seen some people put them backwards and it won't start. Check to see if you have spark cause you could have a bad distributor(coil out or bad ignitor). Did you replace the timing belt before installing the motor?
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You shouldn't need the resistor box unless you have low impedance injectors.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92_VX_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You shouldn't need the resistor box unless you have low impedance injectors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok thats what i thought, i had it out originally but plugged it back in to see if that was the problem...ill check those things, the car and motor were both running fine before i did the swap - the motor came out of another car of mine, so i didnt think it could be the mian relay.. anything else i should check for?
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did u check to make sure the fuel pump has power?
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i just went back out and tried again, i can hear the fuel pump going on, so its got power. but when i turn the key i hear clicking coming from behind the dash, and if i hold it long enough i get this loud chatter from behind the dash to the left of the steering wheel..... no crankage
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main relay will make that noise on the driver side. dead battery and weak starter will make it form the passaanger side. check your grounds
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djsire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">main relay will make that noise on the driver side. dead battery and weak starter will make it form the passaanger side. check your grounds</TD></TR></TABLE>

will do- the batterey tested at 13.7 so i dont thin kits dead - what might have caused the main relay to go bad? it was fine when i started the swap...
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did you push the clutch down? lol
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You ******* better have pressed that clutch down cause we better not have been out there till the sun came up for nothin. haha god dammit!
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Battery cables and starter cable all nice and tight?
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haha yes i pushed the clutch down.... all the cables are tight, but i just remebered something. after being up till 6 am i had the 2 hot leads going to the fuse box in the engine bay switched....tried to start the car - nothing. then we switched them to the right way and nothing. so would that have blown out the relay? or messed up something else? all my grounds are connected except for the one from the tranny to the block, i have yet to get one on there.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonjdmdc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha yes i pushed the clutch down.... all the cables are tight, but i just remebered something. after being up till 6 am i had the 2 hot leads going to the fuse box in the engine bay switched....tried to start the car - nothing. then we switched them to the right way and nothing. so would that have blown out the relay? or messed up something else? all my grounds are connected except for the one from the tranny to the block, i have yet to get one on there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Grounds are important! I've heard of cars not running because of just one ground. Check all grounds and relays.
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Grounds are important! I've heard of cars not running because of just one ground. Check all grounds and relays.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry (tranny to the frame)* just put one on.... anyone know if switching those two hot leads to the fuse box could blow the relay?
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bump.... gonna do up all te grounds tonight and see what happnes
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STARTER??? STARTER CYLENOID??
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Check your wiring, then check your wiring again...

Start signal is only interupted by the clutch switch.. unless it was a A/T -&gt; M/T swap.. There should be no reason the starter don't work.. Check fuses, and grounds from chassis to body/frame.. Sounds like you have some work ahead of you cowboy..
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just connected the tranny to frame ground.. which i had forgotten to do and crimped on a new female clip for the starter ground. started right up.... but now i have idle surge... i switched to a single stage skunk 2 manifold, and took out my charcoal canister. im sure i have my lines screwed up somewhere. does anyone have some pictures of their setup or a diagram? any help would be great the aicv is fine btw - came off my gsr manifold that worked perfectly
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yeah huh.... more like BLOX ITM shittalker version 1.2 by jaundice
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1566215 TB, TPS, idle and Ignition timing adjustment

do that and set your timing.. if it still surges, you have a vacume leak..

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yeah, all thst **** is fine, the tb and all sensors came directly off my perfectly running gsrt... al i did was switch to a blox intake manifold, and removed my charcoal canister, plugging up the two open vaccum nipples on the itm and i ran a line from the pcv to a vac nipple on the itm as well... does this sound right?
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sounds like a definite electrical box problem, like a fuse box or something, because if the fuel pump's not kicking on, u can't just out the fuel pump because it's not turning over and it would w/o the fuel pump, so it's probably something in the grounds or something
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yeah i posted that i got it started already - now i have idle surge. it turned out that the tranny ground wasnt connected - check out the rest of the tread and let me know if you know why i might be getting this surge
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