WGFletch4WS

hey guys, dont no much about civic motors but im looking to find a motor and start building it up while slowly putting money into the motor throughout high school, im only 15 right now and just finished my prelude engine swap so im looking for a new project and i want a turbo so i figured i go with a b16? just wondering wat a good platform is to start with that has alot of aftermarket support and will swap into a civic, I would buy a civic when motors done and throw it in there, any suggestions would be great trying to expand my knowledge in the honda world (sorry about the grammer)

fmrprojects

just get a stock LS and boost it. look in the FI forum theres a lot of good info on builds

Paxil4x4

Seriously get familiar with driving before you start moding the **** out of your car. Statistics on young new drivers are not on your side when it comes to avoiding wrecks and the like.

Mod the driver first all else comes later

JDM-EJ1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by packthis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seriously get familiar with driving before you start moding the **** out of your car. Statistics on young new drivers are not on your side when it comes to avoiding wrecks and the like.

Mod the driver first all else comes later </TD></TR></TABLE>

Definitely. Learn the roads and learn your car and driving habits before you start making it faster. However, I would get a JDM GS-R (b18c) and boost that. But, what do I know? I'm an NA guy.

drk_fly

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ddd4114

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drk_fly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but, from what i have learned, go with a Dseries, be it a vtec mini me, or a non vtec turbo.

d series is the key for budget power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't count on that... I'm 19, invested about $1100 into my car, and right now I have a 2200lb paperweight in my garage...

However, d-series is the way to go if you're on a budget. Just make sure you know what you're doing before you start. I'd spend a good amount of time researching and then researching some more.

Oh - and I also think you need to get used to driving first. It would suck if you spent a lot of money on your car and totaled it a month later.

DARKB20

true, with new driver,you don't need alot of power, you need to know your limits.
go with the d-16 turbo with 180hp. that will be
a nice street car.
maybe later you can built a track car.

WGFletch4WS

thats the point of starting the build now i dont plan on having this done till im 18 or so i wanna do it big and do it right

ddd4114

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WGFletch4WS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats the point of starting the build now i dont plan on having this done till im 18 or so i wanna do it big and do it right </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd LOVE to do something big like that, but I have one thing holding me back: MONEY. I'm doing all of my crap on a 19 year old's budget, and even though I've easily been able to afford everything so far, I should really be saving it for other things. If you want a fully built turbocharged d-series, I hope you have a few grand you're willing to kiss goodbye. If you want to turbo a b-series, expect to spend even more.

o0Jash0o

that budget still hurts at 22 trust me

eXcelonTypeR

I'd skip the engine and mod the HELL out of your supension and brake system. You'll like the result way better i think and it will make you a better driver since you won't have the engine power to break the tires loose in a corner and realy get into trouble. I have video to prove that crappy suspension will get you in trouble, and I only had a VX motor, just imagine what it would be like with something putting out 200+whp and you lack of experiance (just an assumption because of your age).

WGFletch4WS

i dont plan on dumping in all at once but throughout my next 2years in high school slowly build it up with good parts and then buy a civic when im a senior and swap it in there..and i no wat u guys are talking about money issues but i have put around 3g's into my prelude already and when the motors built i can sell that and put it towards a shell

Elwuudz

<U>that budget still hurts at 22 trust me </U> werd

Blue_es_ai

b 16 plus boost that will be best choice! b 16 is cheaper1 but u got 2 more years so star saving up!!

Syndacate

I say FTW, type R if ur going with stock internals and u wanna boost...no matter what u decide u'll need to go light on the lbs to keep from throwing a rod

ddd4114

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say FTW, type R if ur going with stock internals and u wanna boost...no matter what u decide u'll need to go light on the lbs to keep from throwing a rod</TD></TR></TABLE>

WGFletch4WS

thanks for the input guys im starting to sell stuff and save up already and in about a year see how much money i have hopefully enough for type R if not ill be boosting a b16 and maybe building that up to run some decent psi

freezerburnv2

Uhhhh get a H22 it's got lots of power and then throw a super charger on it, 10 pounds of **** in a 5 pound bag I wouldn't go and start building a engine from the ground up unless you have someone that can help you little steps on the way. I started building a LS/VTEC around in 2002 I've bought lots of parts for it but that thing still isn't done. I was going to put it in my 2000 Civic Sedan Auto Tranny then wised up decided the car is worth alot as it is just going to sell the civic and put it in my CRX I got 2 CRX's cost me $300 for both of them 91. great body and very light. Just saying DON'T GO IN OVER YOUR HEAD. Engine swaps are one thing but building and engine from the ground up... Pistons(what Compression), Rods(what brand), Get the Crank and Block looked at by a machine shop to see if there is need for bore and hone, don't forget do you want the engine balanced blue print, will there be a port and polish job, do you have all the bolts to put the thing together what brand gasket & seal kit will you get do you need to change the syncros in the transmission are the gears ok in the transmission will you need motor mounts will the A/C work don't car who says what make the A/C work... or if it's just a drag car for weekends never mind. Will you need to chip the ECU or get a APEX VAFC if this is your daily driver will it get you to work and back home without you calling every other week needing the day off to fix the thing. Getting new belts... God I could go on all day long. if you want a modded car just get a H22, K20 or a GSR engine tranny. doing motor build could set you up for a long head eche... Good luck with whatever you decide read alot of post here don't worry about people telling you to use the search button noob. Make sure you have a hayness manual for engine and Car read though the trouble shooting section do regular maintence on your car and you will get a feel for how well you might do tearing down a whole motor and putting it back together without missing any parts and lubing everything. uhhh I'm going to get a twisty cone..

freezerburnv2

Japanmotorimport.com has a few good choices.. I'm about to order a CRX HF tranny from them they said about $300 shipping on that. just some options

Company: Honda
Code: H22A
Year: 92-95
Valve Train: DOHC, VTEC, 16 Valve
Displacement: 2157cc
Horse Power: 200 @ 6800rpm
Torque: 161 lb-ft @ 5500rpm
Compression: 10.6:1
Red Line: 7200rpm
Transmission: Hydraulic

Company: Honda
Code: JDM B16A G1
Year: 89-91
Valve Train: DOHC, VTEC, 16 Valves
Displacement: 1595cc
Horse Power: 160 @ 7600rpm
Torque: 111 lb-ft @ 7000rpm
Compression: 10.4:1
Red Line: 8200rpm
Transmission: Cable

Price: $1300 USD + shipping

Price: $1850 USD + shipping

gotone4ya

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by freezerburnv2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Red Line: 8200rpm</TD></TR></TABLE>

gotta be the favorite part of my b16

freezerburnv2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by street_racer_NC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gotta be the favorite part of my b16</TD></TR></TABLE>

Torque: 161 lb-ft @ 5500rpm
fav part of a H22

WGFletch4WS

I plan on doing my homework man i may not now of the work but im ready for it and like u said i do have afew honda guys around my town taht know wat ther doing so finding a little help wouldnt be a huge problem im going b16 tho thanks for the input