Airbag Club

I found a Mugen muffler for sale, and I am thinking about getting it, BUT the muffler is made for a 99-00 Civic SI. What would be needed to do to modify the piping to make it fit my 99 hatchback? Would the piping just need to be redone? Would the hangers need to be relocated? Also, the guy said that it has the JDM tip as oppossed to the US tip, but what is the difference? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

FcUK It.

why dont you take it to a muffler shop. its funny, i didn't know there could be a "jdm" tip on a exhaust

Daniel

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Mugen offered different styles of tips on the TL----one version was only available in Japan and the other only in America. There are always debates about which style tip someone has on their MTL. IIR, the JDM tip kind of goes in at the end and is dimpled a little. I think the USDM style is similar but w/o the dimples or something. Bah, I tried finding posts about this on a different board, but I guess they were too old. I remember a few posts had pics that showed the differences.

eh2 nihonjin

pipping and the hangers redone maybe the tip is longer too? i tried to put a 99si stock mufler on my hatch and i had to chop off the tip and the rear section pipping

Draggin99Si

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The JDM tip looks exactly like the current USDM tip. They both taper in ending with 2 rings. The only difference is that the JDM tip has an engraved Mugen logo on the side. However, at one point in time, there was a tip that was not tapered in which was sold to the US market only. This style tip has been discontinued. I have pics of all 3 ever made by Mugen.

So there are really 2 USDM tips.

Airbag Club

cool thanks. do you guys know if the tip for the SI mugen muffler is longer than the tip of a mugen muffler made for my civic hatchback? or is it the same?

Draggin99Si

I'm not sure about that.

But here are pics of the tips so you can see what each one looks like.

JDM tip (notice the engraved Mugen logo)


current US tip (same tip design but no Mugen logo)


discontinued US tip

Aceman64

I just installed a Mugen that was purchased from IPS Racing and it has the Mugen logo engraved on the tip.

-Ace

Airbag Club

wow, thanks for all the pictures.

still trying to find out...does anyone know if the mugen SI mufler tip is longer or same size as the mugen muffler tip for a hatchback?

_unknown_

The hatchback tip is longer than the coupe tip.

You won't be able to lengthen the tip without ruining the muffler.

Just find a hatchback exhaust.

HTH

BERT-O

Well, I bought a USDM for the Civic SI ('99-'00) Mugen axle back local about 2 years ago. At first, I thought he changed the tip, but I realize the welds were to perfect for someone to do by hand. I did some searchn (well, lol, I call King) and was told it was a different tip for the US market.

Again, this wasn't a bolt on. John at LHT performance cut and shorten the pipe and made hangers to work. Took about 25 mins to do.

BERT-O

Here's another pic if this helps,

Airbag Club

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Just find a hatchback exhaust.

HTH</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, but for $250??? lol

Airbag Club

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Well, I bought a USDM for the Civic SI ('99-'00) Mugen axle back local about 2 years ago. At first, I thought he changed the tip, but I realize the welds were to perfect for someone to do by hand. I did some searchn (well, lol, I call King) and was told it was a different tip for the US market.

Again, this wasn't a bolt on. John at LHT performance cut and shorten the pipe and made hangers to work. Took about 25 mins to do.





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thanks for the pictures...what car do you have? EK hatch?

Pho Real

Just make sure it is real....

Airbag Club

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trust me, it is....i've bought stuff off of him in the past, such as my comptech sway/tie bar combo, and my mugen lip.

EricUSC

I would rather spend the extra money to buy a muffler that was made for your car. Also, if you don't mind, is this being sold on Honda-Tech and who is the seller?

RoaringTurtle

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hahah trying to swoop

Airbag Club

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possibly a seller on Honda-Tech.

Fred n J_v2.0

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i believe he has an eg hatch...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=465798

BERT-O

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i believe he has an eg hatch...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=465798 </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes an '94 h/b

Fred n J_v2.0

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i said that sarcastically, thats why i included the link to your pictures

RSZero1

I've been hit with an airbag before. - Airbagclub

sorry OT but this cracks me up, I've been hit with one before too, we were unloading my friends trunk and he threw it at me...