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Old 03-08-2005, 03:06 AM
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i got a 2000 ex coupe with 99,000 miles on it, bought it with 95,000 already,

i installed a kill switch on it (tapped one near the ECU and one on the rear one too for almost 2 months now,

then yesterday i parked my car and turned my wheel towards the gutter because it was a downhill parking, after an hour park went back to the car and car won't start!

i did removed all the kill switch and put it back from it's original connections but car still won't start!

is the ECU fried out? how come? timing belt cut off? distributor not working? thanks!

BTW it already been serviced like changed everything needed for a 90,000 mile car from the dealer, i checked it
Old 03-08-2005, 03:51 AM
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if you used a wrong size switch/wires, it could have blown a fuse.
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i checked the fuse under the dashboard which is 15 the blue one, it is all good
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bump for help!
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It depends what happens. Describe what the car is doing while you are trying to start it. Starter turning slow, fast, etc.... Is the radio working? etc... Is it in neutral or park?

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Default Re: (filthy_shovel)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filthy_shovel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It depends what happens. Describe what the car is doing while you are trying to start it. Starter turning slow, fast, etc.... Is the radio working? etc... Is it in neutral or park?

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the starter turning fast, radio lights and everything is good even fuses are good, have no idea what happened, we tried jump starting the car by pushing it still does not work, BTW my car is a stick shift
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First, check ALL (underhood and underdash) of your fuses. Second, check your connections where you put in the kill switches. Test the wire at the starter to make sure its getting power.

For future reference, if your going to install a kill switch, you should use a relay (standard 30a SPDT) and fuse it.
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i did not use a relay on my kill switch, so did i fry out my ecu then?

yup i checked all the fuses and i removed the kill switch and returned the original connections of the wires
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Default Re: car just won't start (marc-111)

Is the engine cranking? If not, is the starter solenoid clicking?

If it cranks, check for spark at the plugs.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marc-111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the starter turning fast, radio lights and everything is good even fuses are good, have no idea what happened, we tried jump starting the car by pushing it still does not work, BTW my car is a stick shift</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your problem may not be related to the kill switch wiring, but it could also.

1. is the starter turning faster than usual?
2. turn key to on and listen if the fuel pump is priming (2 second buzz). If so, power to pump is good.
3. grab a sparkplug, stick it into plug wire, ground to engine and crank. Do you see spark.
4. Got fuel in the tank?

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yup it cranks normal

i'll do that maybe tomorrow it just started snowing here!BTW how do i do that? just pull the one wire on the head and look at the sparkplug?

my tank has 3/4 gas in it
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check the fuel pump fuse. located underdash fuse panel.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2lua &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check the fuel pump fuse. located underdash fuse panel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

as i just said a while back, i checked all the fuses under the hood and under th4e dash fuse panels
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Loosen the fuel line bolt to see if any fuel's there (your key has to be on "ON" position). As stated by others, also check for spark. It could be your main relay going bad also, that controls fuel and starter operation.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidT or VajT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Loosen the fuel line bolt to see if any fuel's there (your key has to be on "ON" position). As stated by others, also check for spark. It could be your main relay going bad also, that controls fuel and starter operation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

where is the main relay of the fuel located on a 2000 ex coupe?
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Main relay is above the ecu near the glove compartment. You have to take off the side plastic to access it. Check your spark plugs and see if they're getting any fuel.
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how do i know if the relay is not working?

and how would i know if the spark plugs work?

thanks!

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Default Re: (marc-111)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marc-111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do i know if the relay is not working?

and how would i know if the spark plugs work?

thanks!

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Back up a bit here. Let's start over.

1. turn key to on position and listen if the fuel pump is priming (2 second buzz). If it is, than you know that you are getting power to the fuel pump.

2. Open hood, pull off one spark plug wire. remove spark plug, stick it into the removed wire, stick the plug to the block so it is grounded and have a friend crank the engine for about 3-4 seconds. DO you see spark?

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lmao...ok so i smoked a lil....and reading this is just annoying the hell outta me.

Try everything the people suggested before asking for more help.
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