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Old 01-28-2015, 12:10 PM
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I found my notes


ron can you confirm these pins?
This is much better than the diagrams, however, a couple things:

"clutch switch" isn't hx only.
"fuel pump" doesn't go directly to the fuel pump. It goes to the main relay.
"reverse light switch" is coming FROM the reverse light switch, not to it. It needs to go to a source for 12v constant power at the under dash fuse box.
"VSS" again, coming FROM the VSS, needs to go to the cluster.
"fan control" goes to the radiator fan relay. You most likely know this but it could trip someone up if they misinterpret it as HVAC fan.

I don't have my notes in front of me at the moment. This is off the top of my head so if I misstate something, just correct me. No need to eviscerate me haha
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This is much better than the diagrams, however, a couple things: "clutch switch" isn't hx only. "fuel pump" doesn't go directly to the fuel pump. It goes to the main relay. "reverse light switch" is coming FROM the reverse light switch, not to it. It needs to go to a source for 12v constant power at the under dash fuse box. "VSS" again, coming FROM the VSS, needs to go to the cluster. "fan control" goes to the radiator fan relay. You most likely know this but it could trip someone up if they misinterpret it as HVAC fan. I don't have my notes in front of me at the moment. This is off the top of my head so if I misstate something, just correct me. No need to eviscerate me haha

Yeah i should add a diagram with that. It gets a little confusing if you never had it apart before
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) are completely unhelpful and downright wrong.
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You can clearly see all the problems in the comparison pic you posted. How should I make it any more obvious? Virtually all of them are listed as "PGMFI" which I take to mean the ECU. It is not helpful to know that these wires are coming from unspecified pin on the ECU. You need to know where they go. From the ECU to what? How would you like to wire up the pins, to the specific devices I name or to "PGMFI"?

Disregard my info if it offends you.
Your posts stated the diagrams were downright wrong; however, you never showed any errors yet. The factory pin-out diagrams actually link to or referred to additional factory circuit diagrams; so, there is more detail to what each wire goes to. Yes, a individual pin-out diagram can be made to show more helpful detail; but, the statement of them being downright wrong is not factual.
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Your posts stated the diagrams were downright wrong; however, you never showed any errors yet. The factory pin-out diagrams actually link to or referred to additional factory circuit diagrams; so, there is more detail to what each wire goes to. Yes, a individual pin-out diagram can be made to show more helpful detail; but, the statement of them being downright wrong is not factual.
Thank you sir.

Baller, until you actually show an error, your comments should be considered erroneous and dismissed.
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Thank you sir. Baller, until you actually show an error, your comments should be considered erroneous and dismissed.

Ron lets make a diagram like the haynes or helms but more detailed? We can do engine first ( i dont care about cabin wiring)

I hate having to scroll up and down and jump around pages to trace a wire on that pdf.

Im sure it will all fit on maybe 5 pages but all laid out like an actual diagram
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Ron lets make a diagram like the haynes or helms but more detailed? We can do engine first ( i dont care about cabin wiring)

I hate having to scroll up and down and jump around pages to trace a wire on that pdf.

Im sure it will all fit on maybe 5 pages but all laid out like an actual diagram
copy the page and paste it in paint pad.
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copy the page and paste it in paint pad.


copy what page?


Im talking about say im tracing the ig 1 from its source to the ecu then I wana trace gnd to the ecu the manual makes you jump back and forth all over the place. theres no over view diagram of the entire engine harness or cabin harness
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Well, how I would handle that is to look at one diagram, note all the information I need for that one particular wire (color code, connector ID #, location) than continue on to the next page. I'll do the same thing until I know where to located points A to points B.
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Do you guys know the wire size of most of the engine harness? I know its either 18 or 20 gauge
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I can take some pictures of my fuse panel and main fuse panel harnesses if needed I'm not quite sure what your project is at this point besides a d16y5

I'm an autozone employee and I believe I have 1 vehicle unlock free with alldata. Let me double check exactly what that means

And add a question. I know 92-95 cars can add a door Adjar indicator (left front right front), from what I can tell there are blank plugs on the cluster to add in electrical sockets. So pin diagram for the gauge cluster on a 1996 civic hx, all 4 plugs, if you have that page

Thank you again for the help

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Harness is done thanks ron

Car fired up like a champ last night
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Nice job patchy!
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Dear all,
Did you manage to find out what needed to be wired where? I am running at the same issue as you. I need to know to which wires on C101 and C131 need 12v supply. Thank you in advance
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