vlc92189

is there really a big difference between these two? im gonna order a set of rotors and pads soon but i dont knwo the difference?

DaveSi677

Get the blanks most of cross drilled brakes are drilled in after the rotor is made. Plus you wont see any benefits from cross drilled and they have a tendency to crack.

You will also break a lot better with blanks.

Dave

LowSlow93Sol

Blanks for daily driving, but if you autocross or track your car any get good quality drilled and slotted rotors. Helps cooling and also helps with wet braking performance. (of course you also want to get stainless steel brake lines and good pads) But, if you take you car to the track you should already know this.

MHO get the blanks.

vlc92189

thanks guys

vlc92189

hey one more question... do brake pads really matter? my friend got his pads with like lifetime warranty for 20 bucks at advanced.. but i might just oreder the PBR brake pads.. differnece really?

LowSlow93Sol

Some pads will last longer but will have a less stopping ability(low friction coefficient) while others will not last as long but will have higher stopping ability(high friction coefficient).

The pads with a life time warranty are warrantied from cracking or other manufacture defects but you will still have to replace them eventually. For a normal use you will not be able to tell the difference between OEM pads and Advanced autoparts.

LowSlow93Sol

Brake pads will not make your car stop quicker.

If you can take your car our now and stomp on the brakes and lock the wheels or make the abs engage, Your brakes are exceeding what your tires can hold.

Upgrading your tires will decrease your stopping distance since there is more surface area contacting the road. Same can be said for those people wanting to do rear disc brake conversions. It will not make you stop quicker. It will just help prevent brake fade under extreme driving conditions.

vlc92189

so no difference really with the brake pads?

LowSlow93Sol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vlc92189 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so no difference really with the brake pads?</TD></TR></TABLE>

With auto zone or whatever auto parts store you pick there should be no noticeable difference from OEM pads. Now with that said all pads are not equal. Axis and EBC make very good high quality pads for track and street use these are usually made of organic compounds and have a high friction coefficient. The life of the pads is also considerably less.

Some pads also are made to provide less dust and noise than OEM.

Final word do research on the different types of materials(ie Organic,Semi-metalic, Ceramic) and find whats best for you.

MonkeyBoy668

Brake pads can make a difference, but it's minimal. A few feet quicker when stopping from 60 isn't anything to laugh at, but it's not going to cut it by 25% or 50% or anything silly like that.

Which pad you go with primarily determines how the pad works under "extreme" conditions - how much dust it produces under high loads, how it behaves once the pads & rotors heat up, resistance to brake fade, etc. But on the street you're not going to stress a pad enough to evoke those differences.

LowSlow93Sol

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MonkeyBoy668 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Brake pads can make a difference, but it's minimal. A few feet quicker when stopping from 60 isn't anything to laugh at, but it's not going to cut it by 25% or 50% or anything silly like that.

Which pad you go with primarily determines how the pad works under "extreme" conditions - how much dust it produces under high loads, how it behaves once the pads & rotors heat up, resistance to brake fade, etc. But on the street you're not going to stress a pad enough to evoke those differences.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you read my previous post?

You can take any pad and from a straight 60-0 and assuming the ABS works, will stop with in a foot or two or each other. If you can lock up the wheels with stock brakes you WILL NOT be able to stop shorter if you have high performance pads.

Resistance to brake fade has more to do with brake lines than the pads themselves.

MonkeyBoy668

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LowSlow93Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you read my previous post?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Did you bother to read mine?

You're talking about how pads cannot make a difference under ideal cold pad & rotor conditions, I'm saying pads can behave differently at high temps (during hot laps of a road course, for example), but they're not going to make much of a difference at cold temps. OMG! We're agreeing with each other! Whodathunkit?!

But I'm not even going to bother to correct your bizaare brake line assertion.


BTW, I can't lock up my wheels on straight, dry, & smooth stretches of asphalt with OEM pads, OEM rotors, OEM MC, OEM calipers, OEM lines, & DOT-legal competition tires. Please take your "everyone can lock up their brakes" assumption and throw it out the window. Thanks.


Modified by MonkeyBoy668 at 9:15 PM 9/12/2006

SOHC4life 96

Get your rotors from autozone with the 2 year or whatever warranty. If you warp, crack, etc them you can just replace them. The rotors won't make that huge of a difference then get some good pads.

Of the 2 parts the Pads will make the biggest difference in stopping performance. Stainless steel lines only improve pedal feel, they don't do anything for performance.