Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

Brake upgrades?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-30-2003, 10:46 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
revhigh96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, US
Posts: 517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Brake upgrades?

I was just thinking about what upgrades I am going to do to my braking system. SS lines are a must. I was originally thinking of a big brake kit because my 17" rims will easily clear but I really would like to be able to put down to 14" back on my car for track days. What do you guys think will be a good solution for my brakes?

completely stock brakes on a 96 EX
B18C5 Turbo under the hood (thats why I really need brakes soon)

Thanks
Old 12-30-2003, 11:06 PM
  #2  
 
MaxSterling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alhambra, CA, 91801
Posts: 570
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (revhigh96)

only solution is better pads, can't do much with 14" wheels
Old 12-30-2003, 11:07 PM
  #3  
 
=GAME='s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: You Dont Want nO Problem in New Hoeleans
Posts: 2,121
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (MaxSterling)

gsr front and rears with good rotors and pads.

this would be more then enough.
Old 12-30-2003, 11:14 PM
  #4  
 
MaxSterling's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alhambra, CA, 91801
Posts: 570
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (O.G triple O.G)

he has civic ex brakes, which are the same as gsr
Old 12-30-2003, 11:15 PM
  #5  
 
=GAME='s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: You Dont Want nO Problem in New Hoeleans
Posts: 2,121
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (MaxSterling)

same diameter, smaller calipers.
Old 12-30-2003, 11:21 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
xJ.SLOTHx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: knee deep in the dead
Posts: 4,529
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (revhigh96)

why not go 15's for the track?
Old 12-31-2003, 12:59 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
ramz7887's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lexington, KY, US
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (ian)

what about wilwood brakes. Or if you have a lot of money brembo. But both these setups maybe too much for what you need.
Old 12-31-2003, 02:02 AM
  #8  
Solbros Owns Me
 
Evs-One's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, WA, USA
Posts: 14,462
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (revhigh96)

ITR brakes with 4 lug 14 inch CE28N's

Old 12-31-2003, 02:31 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
revhigh96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, US
Posts: 517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

how hard is it to put GSR calipers on my car? also are there any good performace rotors that are out there?
Old 12-31-2003, 11:14 PM
  #10  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
revhigh96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, US
Posts: 517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I allready tried searching but what else do I need besides the GSR caliper itself for it to bolt right up? Also what have your experiences been with aftermarket rotors, inparticular slotted but not cross drilled?
Old 12-31-2003, 11:21 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
D50boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Austin/Bastrop, TX, USA
Posts: 1,411
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (Emerika)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ITR brakes with 4 lug 14 inch CE28N's

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fawk that's a tight fit! Looks killer!

About how much do those wheels go for?
Old 12-31-2003, 11:59 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
p0rnstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Columbus, OH, USA
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (revhigh96)

Pads and SS lines should do the trick...the stock systems are designed to withstand more than stock power anyways to pass certain cerifications..

I recommend Hawk pads.
Old 01-01-2004, 12:00 AM
  #13  
Solbros Owns Me
 
Evs-One's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, WA, USA
Posts: 14,462
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (D50boy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D50boy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Fawk that's a tight fit! Looks killer!

About how much do those wheels go for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think 1100 or so
Old 01-01-2004, 12:02 AM
  #14  
egizzle8
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Brake upgrades? (Emerika)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ITR brakes with 4 lug 14 inch CE28N's

</TD></TR></TABLE>**** that is a pretty tight fit. Did you have to machine any of the rotor or run some spacers? Looks good though. Just need some tires now!
Old 01-01-2004, 12:32 AM
  #15  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: (revhigh96)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revhigh96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how hard is it to put GSR calipers on my car? also are there any good performace rotors that are out there?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rotors do not have "performance." Rotors are only there as a heat sink; they are a wear item. Spending extra money for fancy drilled and/or slotted rotors over the cheaper blanks is just a waste because there are no real benefits. Not to mention, modified rotors tend to form stress cracks more quickly.

If you want to upgrade your stopping power and avoid fade, then upgrade tires first, then pads and fluid.

First of all, what do you do with the car? And what are the limitations of your current brake system?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaxSterling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can't do much with 14" wheels</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah unless they're 14x7s or wider. IMHO 13s are much better. Too bad the only 13x8s that fit over 10.3" front brakes are pricey Panasports.
Old 01-01-2004, 12:38 AM
  #16  
Solbros Owns Me
 
Evs-One's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Vancouver, WA, USA
Posts: 14,462
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: (Targa250R)

Of course some rotors are going to perform better than others....hence the "performance"

Most road racers prefer off the shelf blanks, such as myself, because they are cheap and do the trick.

But, you can get ceramic treated rotors which displace heat a lot better, etc.
Old 01-01-2004, 12:44 AM
  #17  
be professional
 
Targa250R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 14,842
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Re: (Emerika)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emerika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Of course some rotors are going to perform better than others....hence the "performance"

Most road racers prefer off the shelf blanks, such as myself, because they are cheap and do the trick.

But, you can get ceramic treated rotors which displace heat a lot better, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ceramic? I think you mean cryogenically treated rotors.

And these do nothing to improve stopping power or heat dissipation - cryogenically treated rotors simply last longer and aren't worn away by the pads as easily.

Like I said - the rotor is just a heat sink and is a wear item, don't bother with fancy rotors.
Old 01-01-2004, 01:07 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
revhigh96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, US
Posts: 517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I am going to auto x and track my car so stoping power is a must. Just messing around on the streets gives me terible brake fad. I also dont mind spending a bit of money to get something that will really work. I have honda OEM rotors and now they get really hot. I do agree with whats posted above that cross drilled rotors will eventually crack from repeated track use (not drag I mean race track) I have seen it happen.

Are GSR calipers worth the upgrade over the stock EX ones?

As far as pads what have you guys like and disliked?

Also what fluid is good? I have never really looked into changing it but it seems like it could have a huge imact.
Old 01-01-2004, 01:58 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
SuicideSlide's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Posts: 1,918
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (revhigh96)

bump
Old 01-01-2004, 06:24 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
locass316's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: bay area, ca
Posts: 1,349
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

if you gotta stay with the 14s then I say upgrade to the gsr calipers with some bad *** pads and fluid. but if I ever made that much power, Id really look at a better brake setup to match that power
Old 01-01-2004, 08:57 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
 
kommon_sense's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 2,878
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (revhigh96)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revhigh96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am going to auto x and track my car so stoping power is a must. Just messing around on the streets gives me terible brake fad. I also dont mind spending a bit of money to get something that will really work. I have honda OEM rotors and now they get really hot. I do agree with whats posted above that cross drilled rotors will eventually crack from repeated track use (not drag I mean race track) I have seen it happen.

Are GSR calipers worth the upgrade over the stock EX ones?
</TD></TR></TABLE>

IMHO, no.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As far as pads what have you guys like and disliked?
</TD></TR></TABLE>

AEM pads have worked for my purposes. I recommend that you take a look at the Carbotech Bobcats and some Brembo blanks.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also what fluid is good? I have never really looked into changing it but it seems like it could have a huge imact.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ATE Superblue racing or ATE Type 200 Gold. Same fluid, just differnet colors. This fluid has a good wet and dry boiling point and is suitable for street driving. There are other fluids that are better, but they absorb moisture quicker, so the most practical choice for a dual purpose car.
Old 01-01-2004, 09:30 PM
  #22  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Soccerking3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (kommon_sense)

i got brembo and they are sooo awesome u can stop on a dime with no problem, never have to worry about them warping such as happens with cheap ****, if u got the money go with brembo if not go with the gsr
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
lude rider
Honda Prelude
9
11-15-2011 05:11 PM
cobra2326
Suspension & Brakes
6
03-07-2006 04:35 PM
Big Phat R
Acura Integra Type-R
44
06-11-2003 03:21 PM
garados
Acura Integra
17
04-23-2002 04:48 AM
Reverend
Acura Integra
9
08-30-2001 08:16 AM



Quick Reply: Brake upgrades?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:44 AM.