99siEM1

whats going on every one need some help dont know should i go all motor or turbo im leaning on the all motor side just to be different every around here says all motor is wack ant no real power there this is what im running so far i have 99 si civic stage 2 cams,valves,valve springs,ti retainers,AEM cam gears type r rockers type r intake manifold with a AEM V2 COLD AIR INTAKE spoon 1.3 bar radiator cap. TODA 4-2-1 header,skunk 2 cat -back and a high flow cat
TEIN flex full coilover's.with the edfc also have skunk-2front sway bar full urethane bushing kit and skunk-2 front camber kit
AEM FUEL RAIL.REGULATOR,FUEL PRESSURE GAUGE
so now im stuck dont know which way to go with the block low or high comp what will i be lookin at WHP with a stroker kit like from toda and the other company i know turbo its all most endless lolol but she is also a daily driver during the summer can any one help me out

99siEM1

or should i go with CTR internals i know it will save me hell of out more money

z6hatchboy

Well, its been said plenty of times for all-motor apps. you'll spend thousands just too get smaller amounts of power compared to turbo apps. I dont know what gains from stroker kits their are, but i would love to see! Boost is cost effecient to all-motor apps though.

93egSLEEPER

what are you overall goals for the car? drag race or autocross? daily driver or weekend warrior. put that into consideration.

99siEM1

well winter i dont drive it at all tires of and everything but summer comes she out like everyday but trying to make it an SIR thats one of my goals i know si and sir is the same thing jus one from us and the other canada.but i guess more weekend type deal show up to the meets on weekends and once in afew take it to the track for fun

93egSLEEPER

okay with that in mind then you would rather keep it JDM looking with stock stuff and clean and dont really car about make 400whp? id just keep it at what u have if you dont plan on racing much and work on appearance. boost is alot of fun though. just my .02

BiG_DeE

If you have to think bout it then dont do it, cuase ur not sure what the pros or cons are so do more research.

JustHere4ADay

once a week we get questions like this

99siEM1

my friend has a boosted si at 15 psi i drove that **** i went crazy i loved the damn thing when i got back in mine i was hummmmmmmmmmmmm lololol but a full turbo set up is about 6g with labor and all thats when money come in lolol but would anyone know what WHP ill be lookin at with my built head if i was too get a stoker kit

99siEM1

hey sorry if u feel tired of hearing this question i just wanna do **** right now just be like one of them guys who jus goes buys stuff jus to say i got that and got this everything in my si i bought with doing homework and seeing whats best with wha im jus stuck now with the block i called up RPM nyc they said it will be about 6 to 7g for a full turbo set up with block work and all if i do something i do it right no half ***

JustHere4ADay

alot of people wont like what i would say to go with but.... do some research and you will come up with the same thing i just pmed you..


CHEAP... power.....= ebay turbo kits.... but you have to do the stuff i told you to ... to make it all work and it be safe

JustHere4ADay

6-7k please you can go K power for that much..

99siEM1

yeah i thought about K also but too much money to do everything right plus like i said im trying to stay close to SIR

99siEM1

but would be nice to get a K20a2 in their

adamrg85

all motor or turbo? that really does seem to be the question, it get asked almost twice a week, but seriously it all depends on your budget and your power goal. I personally never seen any built all motor b16's making much hp unless it was stroked out to about 1.9 liters or 2 liters and very high compression, i dont know how much power that would make but I would be surprized if its more than 200hp. So I would personally go turbo because its the biggest bang for your buck and you can controll how much power you want with a boost controller. I also have a friend with a b16 turbo but in a hatch, I never driven it but I been in it when he kicked the **** out of a 98 mustang gt. He has some big *** turbo making 287whp at 9psi, he told me what the turbo was but I dont know **** about turbos, I just want one. he said he got it for $599 shipped off some site and it was tuned with hondata, well anyway, turbo b16 is alot of fun, you just got to learn how to launch it because there is hardly any traction. 7 grand is alot of money for you're asking for, I hope a dyno tune is included in that price.

The Lobster

holy hell it doesnt cost 6-7 k for a turbo set up pushing 400 hp...i know from personal experience. more like 4-5k if that. and thats with good parts and a built motor....

black_EM1

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Roughly, maybe less if you cheap out. I'm about $4.5k into my turbo build only because I bought forged internals and a ball bearing turbo. On stock internals with a non-BB turbo you'd be $3k in.

The Lobster

Brother had LS/VTEC benson sleeved completely built bottom and super tech valves. GSR cams b16 head. AEBS intake manifold. RLD ramhorn/dp. sploolin performance piping and precision IC. and other random stuff and all that just barely tipped 5k.

black_EM1

What turbo though?

Boost_V

seriously, i'd go straight to the Forced Induction sectiona and just read a ton. IT helps a lot. try it

99siEM1

well rpm nyc said a fully built block will be around 3g with crower rods an je pistons and sleeve for a greddy kit with boost controller and fuel pump and a bigger intercooler it be about 3400.total almost 7g i know they are good their the best place to go for honda in nyc

The Lobster

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SC61 not bb saves a grand but the dyno was 419hp and 318 tq...very conservative he was going to go and get it retuned for 500, but decided he didnt want to anymore and sold everything.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99siEM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well rpm nyc said a fully built block will be around 3g with crower rods an je pistons and sleeve for a greddy kit with boost controller and fuel pump and a bigger intercooler it be about 3400.total almost 7g i know they are good their the best place to go for honda in nyc </TD></TR></TABLE>

ummm i would never go with a greddy kit period...sounds like even more of a waste with a full built short block. You can get a AFI complete kit for 2500 and its 5 times better then the greddy.

Historyg

dude their is no place to go really in Nyc, I live in bk too, do research, and try to do the work yourself, it wont cost even close to 7k, people on here are sick of hearing this question because its like asking someone how the earth was formed their is like 10 million ideas, so do some research, if you want a good place in ny near bk try full throttle on fresh pond they do bottom end work and will order almost anything you need.

99siEM1

yeah i heard about full from my boys down in sunset im asking around alot

2tonecivic21

boost it