BOMZ racing cold air intake
07-12-2004, 08:58 PM
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BOMZ racing cold air intake
Hey I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about bomz cold air intakes, and if they are good or bad. I see them on eBay and they look almost to cheap to pass up but I am looking for your opinion. Thanks
07-12-2004, 09:20 PM
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Re: BOMZ racing cold air intake (drew102)
my friend had installed it on his 98 4dr... you can feel the difference but like all other air intakes you can feel the difference. i think its obnoxoiusly loud and cheap.
you get what pay for.
you get what pay for.
07-12-2004, 09:46 PM
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intake is just a filter on a stick man.
get the long one or get the short one,
those are your options.
piping is piping,
only diff between some would be the filter,
KN is held in high regaurd, the ebay filters are alil iffy, but i bet they still flow quite well compared to a stock filter.
worth the price,
do your best to find a seller local to you so you can pick up...
all that cheap stuff ends up doubling in price after shipping and tax.
get the long one or get the short one,
those are your options.
piping is piping,
only diff between some would be the filter,
KN is held in high regaurd, the ebay filters are alil iffy, but i bet they still flow quite well compared to a stock filter.
worth the price,
do your best to find a seller local to you so you can pick up...
all that cheap stuff ends up doubling in price after shipping and tax.
07-12-2004, 11:10 PM
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Re: (Tad)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">intake is just a filter on a stick man.
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Depends on how well that stick is designed.
AEM CAI v.1 and Iceman CAI. Two popular "Cooler Air Intake" systems. Both using K&N filters (though some AEMs had AEM-branded filters).
You would think they perform the same. They don't.
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Depends on how well that stick is designed.
AEM CAI v.1 and Iceman CAI. Two popular "Cooler Air Intake" systems. Both using K&N filters (though some AEMs had AEM-branded filters).
You would think they perform the same. They don't.
07-12-2004, 11:14 PM
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my aem cai has a red aem branded filter...
i think it sounds real nice, its quiet when driving normally, and it makes the engine louder when driving hard...
also makes the throttle response feel better... didnt feel any gains in power at all
i dunno anything about the bomz cai
i think it sounds real nice, its quiet when driving normally, and it makes the engine louder when driving hard...
also makes the throttle response feel better... didnt feel any gains in power at all
i dunno anything about the bomz cai
07-12-2004, 11:15 PM
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Re: (Outrun)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outrun »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Depends on how well that stick is designed.
AEM CAI v.1 and Iceman CAI. Two popular "Cooler Air Intake" systems. Both using K&N filters (though some AEMs had AEM-branded filters).
You would think they perform the same. They don't.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not doubting you, but i would like for you to show some proof or at least elaborate on that a little, cause I do see your point but also it's hard to believe that they will perform that differently....
Depends on how well that stick is designed.
AEM CAI v.1 and Iceman CAI. Two popular "Cooler Air Intake" systems. Both using K&N filters (though some AEMs had AEM-branded filters).
You would think they perform the same. They don't.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not doubting you, but i would like for you to show some proof or at least elaborate on that a little, cause I do see your point but also it's hard to believe that they will perform that differently....
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07-12-2004, 11:42 PM
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Re: (99FBPSi)
The AEM v1 and the Iceman intake in "long" configuration were tested on two different Civics with D16Z6 engines (94 coupe, 95 hatch).
Both cars dynoed to within 1/2 hp of each other (107.xx) on AEBS's Dynojet 248C dyno. On both cars the AEM had a consistent loss of 1-2hp below 3500rpm compared to the stock full intake (including the resonator). The AEM only showed significant gains over 5600rpm, with a peak gain of 2hp just over 6000rpm.
The Iceman in "short" configuration had no losses on both cars. However, it was identical to the stock intake until over 5500rpm, where the Iceman's peak gain of 3.8hp was about 6500rpm.
In the "long" configuration the peak hp of about 3hp did not change. However, at 4400rpm there was a peak gain of 6hp, corresponding to a noticeable change in sound.
A proper CAI makes more power because of a freer-flowing filter, an intake pipe tuned to the particular engine, and of relatively cooler air due to the placement of the filter (usually away from the engine).
Pipe resonance is a hard thing to explain, but it involves inherent resonance. I forget all the formulas from geography, but I'll try to make an analogy that makes sense. Most buildings are designed to resist earthquakes. Building have their own different inherent resonant characteristics. It helps explains why one building can easily withstand a 5.2 earthquake, but cannot safely withstand say, a 3.5 earthquake. You would think if it can withstand a big earthquake, it can handle earthquakes less severe.
Think of an intake pipe's inherent resonance. At certain RPM's a certain intake pipe design will be at its most effective, or it may be effective at different RPMs compared to another intake pipe that may be similar in dimension but made of something different (ie polyethylene instead of aluminum, or mild steel instead of carbon fiber).
Anyways, regardless of whether or not the intake is designed well, you won't see outrageous gains on a little Civic.
The only other thing to consider is if legality is an issue and you live in CA and want an intake with a CARB EO#.
Both cars dynoed to within 1/2 hp of each other (107.xx) on AEBS's Dynojet 248C dyno. On both cars the AEM had a consistent loss of 1-2hp below 3500rpm compared to the stock full intake (including the resonator). The AEM only showed significant gains over 5600rpm, with a peak gain of 2hp just over 6000rpm.
The Iceman in "short" configuration had no losses on both cars. However, it was identical to the stock intake until over 5500rpm, where the Iceman's peak gain of 3.8hp was about 6500rpm.
In the "long" configuration the peak hp of about 3hp did not change. However, at 4400rpm there was a peak gain of 6hp, corresponding to a noticeable change in sound.
A proper CAI makes more power because of a freer-flowing filter, an intake pipe tuned to the particular engine, and of relatively cooler air due to the placement of the filter (usually away from the engine).
Pipe resonance is a hard thing to explain, but it involves inherent resonance. I forget all the formulas from geography, but I'll try to make an analogy that makes sense. Most buildings are designed to resist earthquakes. Building have their own different inherent resonant characteristics. It helps explains why one building can easily withstand a 5.2 earthquake, but cannot safely withstand say, a 3.5 earthquake. You would think if it can withstand a big earthquake, it can handle earthquakes less severe.
Think of an intake pipe's inherent resonance. At certain RPM's a certain intake pipe design will be at its most effective, or it may be effective at different RPMs compared to another intake pipe that may be similar in dimension but made of something different (ie polyethylene instead of aluminum, or mild steel instead of carbon fiber).
Anyways, regardless of whether or not the intake is designed well, you won't see outrageous gains on a little Civic.
The only other thing to consider is if legality is an issue and you live in CA and want an intake with a CARB EO#.
07-13-2004, 01:31 AM
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intake just just a tube with a filter. brand name intakes just make it legal. otherwise go ebay ;D. i honestly wouldnt spend more than 30 dollars for an intake
07-13-2004, 01:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jerbear! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">intake just just a tube with a filter. brand name intakes just make it legal. otherwise go ebay ;D. i honestly wouldnt spend more than 30 dollars for an intake</TD></TR></TABLE>
if ur in cali, you can think about it this way: a ticket for "modified smog equipment" ie intake runs $80 even if you get it corrected. you can buy an AEM carb approved short ram for $80 (groupbuycenter.com). $30 intake + $80 = $110. having a street legal setup and not worring about smog or tickets= priceless
if ur in cali, you can think about it this way: a ticket for "modified smog equipment" ie intake runs $80 even if you get it corrected. you can buy an AEM carb approved short ram for $80 (groupbuycenter.com). $30 intake + $80 = $110. having a street legal setup and not worring about smog or tickets= priceless
07-13-2004, 01:52 AM
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Re: (jerbear!)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jerbear! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">intake just just a tube with a filter. brand name intakes just make it legal. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess my long post was a waste of time.
There is a reason street legal intakes are more expensive. Someone has to pay for the cost of testing the product to make sure it performs to CARB's standards.
Regardless of legality, an intake won't do much for a Honda.
I guess my long post was a waste of time.
There is a reason street legal intakes are more expensive. Someone has to pay for the cost of testing the product to make sure it performs to CARB's standards.
Regardless of legality, an intake won't do much for a Honda.
07-15-2004, 03:22 PM
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Re: BOMZ racing cold air intake (mooseknuckle)
the reason i didnt like my ebay CAI was because the quailty of the tube was horrible.
The piping was to thin that it was wearing away the tube by resting on the car.
My aem never did that..
Right now I have a Fake J's Racing. I love it. Best intake I ever owned. Only shitty thing about it was the filter so i swapped it out with a 5" k&n.
The piping was to thin that it was wearing away the tube by resting on the car.
My aem never did that..
Right now I have a Fake J's Racing. I love it. Best intake I ever owned. Only shitty thing about it was the filter so i swapped it out with a 5" k&n.
07-15-2004, 03:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HeterHsan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend had installed it on his 98 4dr... you can feel the difference but like all other air intakes you can feel the difference. i think its obnoxoiusly loud and cheap.
you get what pay for. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outrun »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
....Regardless of legality, an intake won't do much for a Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Peeps can rarely feel a difference in adding an intake, its all in your head
you get what pay for. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outrun »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
....Regardless of legality, an intake won't do much for a Honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Peeps can rarely feel a difference in adding an intake, its all in your head
07-15-2004, 03:54 PM
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Re: (CivicVX94)
CivicVX94,
Here is a link that shows a difference in pipes. This is Injen vs AEM though.
http://performance.clubrsx.com/intaketest.html
That is just a little info I got while googling for the difference in CAIs.
elevtro
Here is a link that shows a difference in pipes. This is Injen vs AEM though.
http://performance.clubrsx.com/intaketest.html
That is just a little info I got while googling for the difference in CAIs.
elevtro
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