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Old 05-11-2009, 06:20 PM
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so i have a little problem and i have pushed it to the side for a while but it pissed me off yesterday, i drive a 95 civic coupe with a type r swap,when i drive normal its ok but lets say a car gets next to me and we take of from a roll my car bogs really bad and the other car will jump ahead and it takes time to pick up speed and climb rpm's,once vtec kicks in i catch up and passed them but there something wrong its like if its drowning or something i dont race much but im tired of playing catchup,and more importanly i want to resolve the problem, ive had other b series swaps and never had this problem what can it be
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anybody??????
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the problem is you actin like a ricer
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please explain why?
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Is the CEL ON?

Plugs, wires, cap, rotor, ignition timing?
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i dont like arguing with people but to buddy that made the comment read the post i rarely race ive race less then a hand full of time and all a track and yesterday i raced in the streets and i know it wasnt the smartest choice but i did i wanted to see if it happened from a roll and it did,

and to ron, nope no cel,new rotor,new cap,new wires,nothing how can i know if im running rich?or if the theres to much gas being pumped in,there is a private airport by my house which hasnt been used in a long time thats is where i have tried several thingsand nothing
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Are you getting poor gas mileage? How do the plugs look? Have you checked the ignition timing with a timing gun?
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that timing gun can be rented a autozone right,ive seen it there but never thought i use it?that will be the first thing i do tomorrow,thanks ill keep you updated,and i get ok gas milage i shift at 3k always nevers past that so i really dont push the motor much to waste gas
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Default Re: bogging,slow pick up

Originally Posted by VTEC_PRODUCTION
the problem is you actin like a ricer
Are you serious? This guy has a legit question and you flame him? He has said nothing ricer-like. You sir are a moron, gtfo

To the OP, if you're getting too much fuel you'll have the same problem as me and it'll be blowing out black smoke. I haven't noticed a major power loss however it still pisses me off. Ron knows his stuff, check anything he reccommends. Good luck
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feartheH thanks man,i dont know where he got that idea,and yeah ron has helped me out b4
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im not flaming but the way its put is kind of "ricey". Anyways, bogging problems usually come from ignition timing, and base timing (but may run a bit rough if even a tooth off), or a vacuum leak (idle is usually jumping though) do routine maintenance first and through a timing light on it.
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yeah thats why i wrote afterwards that i dont race every honda i see,and certainly not in streets.yeah i do have a wierd idle im guessing a vaccum leak but cant seem to find it i had the line that goes from the intake mani to the cruis control disconnected and found out that was giving idle issues so i fixed it but this i have no idea,also the ilde surges are when the car is just turned on once its warmed up drives normal,
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^^^by the way nice build man
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Default Re: bogging,slow pick up

Sounds like your Timing may be off a little bit. I'm having the same problems with a SOHC and still haven't got around to setting it perfect. either that or a clogged fuel filter or injectors.
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i was reading z6hatchboy's post and did notice that after a run the car runs really rough like i have to step on it to drive normal,that only happens after a run with vtec and all,so it could be the timing!?
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what ecu r u running?
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Thanks! If its stumbling like your mentioning it does sound like timing. If it only surges on start up that would be a fitv (fast idle thermo valve), theres a write up on here somewhere on how to clean it. Those two things should fix all your problems. If your not running the right ecu that could be where the timing issue is coming from also
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well ill try those two tomorrow,and im running a chipped p75,but i dont think its the ecu cause it started doing this now and never b4
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could be then, get the program checked out. A lot of peoples had problems from bad "burns" on the chips, or just not the right one
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about that is there place that would have settings for you to see like map settings for b series and stuff searched but no luck,btw i found the diy on th fitv
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wow i leave for 5 min and u guys steal my answer ....lol i was gunna post that...sounds like ur basemap is dumpin to much fuel...or not even a type r basemap...u gota also input if u have bigger injectors also...
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if you want to see what a base map for a c5 looks like go to tunewithcrome.com and download crome free and compare the different maps. the problem however is probably on the ignition map maybe though. Sweet, that diy makes it really easy and should solve the idle problem
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OK H whatever you say. thank z6
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Default Re: bogging,slow pick up

Originally Posted by prime-R
i shift at 3k always nevers past that so i really dont push the motor much to waste gas
Civic with a type-R swap Shifting at 3k is about as believable as a guy saying he has a 11 second dragster in his garaged but never raced it. I don't care if it's a H22, honda's HATE low RPM's.

Shifting before 3k puts you in 5th at like 35mph! I don't know ANYONE that runs 5 gears light to light, even driving like someone that should be in a buick roadmaster!!! LOL
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BTW, EFF FITV's!! I'm gonna do another writeup on how to permanently lock them shut using one of the 3 Dizzy bolts that I think is overkill too..

Falling on it's face sounds like a ignition timing problem. if it just happened out of nowhere, it's possibly your cat starting to clog too! I know excessive fuel in the cat causes it to run REALLLLLLY hot and it starts to melt the porcelain inside creating restriction.. Most B-series ECU's are calibrated for 240cc injectors.. I'm not sure if ITR's are any bigger.. If they are, you could have damaged your cat if you have one..


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