jyacoba2009

d16y7

I'm really strapped on money right now

I called a head shop [not the place where you can buy marijuana paraphernalia ] and they quoted me $50 to resurface my head and $350 to do a 3-angle/resurface/the whole sha-bang to my head.

i got college starting in 3 weeks and i got a job which I need my car desperately for.. is it possible for me to just get my head resurfaced and have my problem fixed, than getting the whole package?

90Rexx

blown headgasket? just get the head milled and call it a day...

jyacoba2009

yea thats what im hoping for.. so i should just get it resurfaced and slam it on?

jyacoba2009

bump

90Rexx

yessir thats all you will need as long as it was running properly prior to the headgasket

jyacoba2009

ok thank you sir! btw i used to live next to worcester, ma for about 11 years until i moved to las vegas.

but hopefully resurfacing my head will do my car good.. b/c i've spent about maybe $2500 fixing it up already!

90Rexx

ouch... thats alot of money... yah good thing you got outta hear the weather sux!!

apexi_rsx

might throw timing off alil bit depending how much is shaved. an adjustible cam gear is nice to have to fix that.

jyacoba2009

would it be necessary though? its only my DD

Pothole987

Some cars your allowed .020 as long as it wasn't shaved. if its a problem get a shim from the machine shop if they sell to bring the head level back to normal.

jyacoba2009

whats a shim?

and before removing my head.. do i drain the coolant and oil?
and if its a must.. new head bolts?

jdqcivicp72

hope its just the head gasket problem some people get it resurfaced then later find out the rings went bad too. GL

The Lobster

wtf

did you over heat? and if you did did it do it for long?

how many miles on your hg?

it just sounds like a 50 dollar job you can do yourself....

change the head gasket and call it a day...no need to mill your head...not sure why these people are telling you to do so without asking for symtoms...

not recommended to reuse your head studs but if its just a daily driver then whatever. i think factory spec is 53 lbs tq? i would just tq it to 58 lbs.

steps are quite simple.

Drain coolant/oil
unbolt intake manifold
unbolt header
take off valve cover
loosen t belt tensioner
take tbelt off
disconnect wire/hoses from head
disconnect dizzy
take head bolts out
clean surfaces
"check" for flatness with a straight edge if nto flat then get it milled i highly doubt its warped unless you were running hot for a long time.
put on head gasket

repeat in reverse order....

takes about an hour.

jyacoba2009

well my uncle [he's a honda tech] was working on my car all day yesterday and he saw a slight milky fluid when he checked my oil, but it didn't come back after he tried checking numerous times.

his answer was blown head gasket.. but he also told me to do a 3 angle valve job with the resurfacing and get new valve seals, oil seals, etc etc which will cost me $350.. which is about my paycheck [since im a college student] this car has been giving me a lot of problems since i bought it from some mexicans [no racial] for CHEAP

jyacoba2009

actually i was running hot for a while.. but i never had money until last week to replace my radiator.. but i guess i was running it hot for too long.

when my car started getting TOO hot.. i'd be chilling on the side of the road for an hour until i could get home.. i never cruised in the car for a long time, this is a car only for going to work/college.

The Lobster

as long as you didnt run it at "H" for a while it should be alright.

YOU DEF DONT NEED A 3 angle valve job...thats just a waste of money for a DD completely pointless...

if you can do this yourself i would just gamble with the 50 bucks and buy a head gasket and fluids yourself and do it yourself.

like i said it will take 1 hour 2-3 hours if its your first time.

jyacoba2009

I tried not running at H.. but when it did, I stop.. but I think I might have been to H a lot, that it would have warped the head

o btw.. wheres the best place to get the gasket, oem honda?

The Lobster

OEM honda y8 only cost about 23 bucks online.

Felpro from advance is decent too. I have used both with no problems.

jyacoba2009

wanna pass me a link? im bad at searching, i can only find gasket kits.. but not just the metal y8 gasket

jooky5

new head gasket and new bolts are all you should need.. Might want to get new rings too since your right there.

hondamark35

couldn't you pick up a decent Y7 to swap in for about $400? maybe as much as $500 but you won't run the risk of hoping it's a head gasket and not a small crack in the head or block...

just a suggestion... you decide.

The Lobster

http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/hpa_p...onGroupID=1728

number 6

how is he close to the rings? hes way far from the rings...thats talking about dropping the oil pans taking out each rod at a time...**** if he does this he mind as well change the bearings and checked all the clearances too...hes not smoking or burning oil so why even change the rings...

liek i said on the headbolts...this is a DD and if he never boost on it or what not i would just throw the oem headbolts back in there and tq them higher. yes you can do this but one time only.

he could but then he could also swap motors to find out the other motor has bad bearings or bad head gasket.

there is no small crack in the head...do a search on here you wont find any body with a cracked head....

jooky5

If the car is old enough to blow a head gasket its probably time to start replacing things.
geez if you want to be cheap and reuse old stretched bolts. You might as well just put some sealant on the old gasket and call it good.
Doing things half *** always leads to redoing it.

hondamark35

on the same token if he replaces the gasket and the shop does a poor job or another component in an already compromised, over strained engine fails a week after getting it back... futile.

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not possible right?

The Lobster

if he replaces the rings he mind as well just rebuild the whole motor since its all apart already. Plus replaceing rings without honing is pointless...and if you hone he will probably get blowby..so in reality he needs to take the whole motor out and have it bored out so its a fresh seal...and while he is doing that he mind as well change all the valve seals.

This isnt doing it half ***. Swap out head gaskets...check for flatness on head with a straight edge and feeler guage. If head is straight there is no reason for him to get it resurfaced. No reason for rings if he doesnt burn oil... His head bolts are streched once and it has been proven time and time again if you tq them to 58 lbs itll be fine for his DD. No need to dump 500 bucks on it.


wait eh? he replaces gasket yes...what does a shop have to do with anything? He replaces the gasket himself checks for head flatness and call it a day...nothing else to it...