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Old 04-29-2005, 10:44 AM
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ok...on b16 dohc....DO yall prefer the short ram CAI or the Long tube CAI that runs under the engine compartment ?
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (ApolloSpeed)

short ram but its preference
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Depends on what you want... Try the search function... you'll find tons of topics on this.
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (mp5o)

CAI refers to cold air intake, which you called long tube. The short ram is not a CAI. I went short ram because the cai's have a chance (even though its not a big chance) of hydrolocking your motor by sucking up water. I don't think there is a big enough power difference to justify the risk. It's all perference though. My $.02
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http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_challenge.shtml
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (Harvey_Hx)

long tube CAI with aem by pass valve. Short ram is a waste because your sucking hot air into the motor from the engine bay. Now you can use the short ram when your not racing so as not to have the chance of hydro lock and just by an extension to put on when you race like me and my bro did.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Harvey_Hx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_challenge.shtml</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good article. SR wins! In that particular application at least.
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So there is a good chance hydrolock would happen on the CAI ?
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there is but you just have to be careful.m Take my advise and just have an extension for when you race. Just remember short ram lose hp.
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not really , but it depends on were you live(rains alot and flooded roads) I have had one on for 3 years and never a problem
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (all8280bcc)

a short ram you lose top end HP but get more torque so it evens out
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (fasthatchb18c1)

I just take my headlight out when i'm at the track, and my SR gets all the cold air it can handle. My filter couldn't be any closer to the headlight, in fact I had to trim it to fit. Ebay $90 AEM SR
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But why whould you sacrifice the hp when you can have the hp and torque. Plus if you do opt to get the by pass valve (recommended) you dont have to do any of the taking out headlight etc.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all8280bcc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But why whould you sacrifice the hp when you can have the hp and torque. Plus if you do opt to get the by pass valve (recommended) you dont have to do any of the taking out headlight etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not convinced I am sacrificing HP (in the article for example, the AEM SR dynoed 1.5 hp higher than either of the AEM CAI's), and i've seen motors hydrolock with the bypass valve.
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (ApolloSpeed)

i had a aem CAI with bypass on my 91' accord and i loved it

it rains alot where i live and i never had a problem with water, but it was also stock ride hieght.

now i have a shorty on my civic and i didnt like it but o put a larger, better k&n filter on the end of it and it made a HUGE difference..

its more personal preference i think
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg4usdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> better k&n filter on the end of it and it made a HUGE difference..
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Filter is much more important than most people think.
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (eg4usdm)

with the bypass you cant be an indiot you have to take it easier on the accelerator when it rains otherwise you will suck up the water throught the intake tube because you have to let the water drain out of the tube first. I like CAI but it is personal preference. we can disagree all day and never change each others mind.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all8280bcc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the bypass you cant be an indiot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

enough said.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGdashSIX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

enough said.
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lol, but he has one good point.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all8280bcc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we can disagree all day and never change each others mind.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all8280bcc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the bypass you cant be an indiot </TD></TR></TABLE>

oops TARD!!!!!
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (all8280bcc)

TARD &gt; trial user.

once again, enough said.
i would just take your ONE good point, and move on
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**** you noob. youve been here less than me and your callin me a trial user. **** off **** munch.
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (all8280bcc)

EGDashSix, its a ******* typo, get over it. Some of the smartest people on the board have low post counts since they signed up for this board to read, not write.

all8280bcc, change your avatar to the donkey at least, and don't get pissed so easliy, damn.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all8280bcc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** you noob. youve been here less than me and your callin me a trial user. **** off **** munch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

aww poor baby. do you even have a car? have you ever even posted your own thread? doesn't look like it, or seem like it.

feel free to grab one you dolt.
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Default Re: Which is better.....short ram or long tube intake ? (EGdashSIX)

wow did you think of that one all by yourself. Or did you jack that from someone else? Anyways i have posted my own threads and the reason i dont post alot is because i am a do it yourselfer and like to learn on my own. Plus i actually have friends who can help me unlike you who probaly doesnt know jack **** and only hacked this thread to talk **** and didnt even contribute.


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