yupuhhuh

Do you have any pics of it in a EG, and what else did u need to do the swap? Thanks Alot

dirtySOHC's

"SIINSI" and "B18C5 EH2" are the only ones i can think of off the top of my head. im sure there are others

B18C5-EH2

Me?





I liked my B18C5 so much that I yanked it out of my old Si hatch and dropped it in the above pictured 1992 CX.

Results?

Let me find them...


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 3:17 AM 4/21/2002]

Apex i ITR

Me too. I can't find a pic online though (@ least a recent one.)

B18C5-EH2

Oh well. I'll just retype my results.

13.9@100.97mph on a STOCK B18C5 in my old 1992 Si hatch. That car weighed 2289lbs. as opposed to the lower weights of the CX/VX/DX hatches. This was in Georgia where higher 1/4 mile times are common, so I was happu about it.

My old B18C1 swap ran 14.6 in the same car, same track, same weight.

The new CX should run a great deal better since it will be roughly 250lbs. lighter and I added an ATS 4.929 Final Drive to replace the stock 4.400 Final Drive. It ran bad-*** on the street in my old car with the 4.929 FD, so hopefully it'll be better at the strip too.

Dyno:

B18C5:

175whp, 122ft/lbs. of torque.

Mods: AEM CAI for 99-00 Si, Tanabe Racing Medallion Exhaust, and re-chipped P28 ECU.

Notice the LACK of an aftermarket header. A good header makes a big difference on the R motors, so knowing that I rolled 175whp on stock ex. manifold is very nice. This was all untuned too. Once I dial in the camgears and tune the V-AFC the numbers will be even better.

I'll let SIINSI say his stuff, but I do know he runs 13.3 in his EK hatchback. Mods that I know of are JUNIII cams, valvetrain, and ECU + bolt-ons.

Stock bottom'd B18C5 and B18C (Type R, JDM) motors can be revved to 9000rpms daily and can roll 200whp with good cams, bolt-ons and tuning.

With a B18C5 you get a lot for the money, and most importantly you get something that cannot be duplicated:

Honda O.E build quality.

The real beauty is that although it runs great at the strip, the best thing is the ability to run hard as hell all day on the street or track, and the LSD really makes cornering awesome. I use my car for suto-X and it is fun as hell - the stock ITR tranny is great. Good gearing, 4.400 FD and a good (not best though) LSD too.

This is not to **** on other swaps, because I've owned a B18C1 and still have a B16A2 in my fiancee's 1992 hatch too. They all run great, but the C5 obviously runs much better.
http://www.hondamotorsonline.com has B18C5s for like $4,800 for the WHOLE swap!

yupuhhuh

To the guys that have this swap, did you need any other parts then what usually comes with the swap kit to make this a quick and easy swap? Also can i still keep power steering and my AC in the car?

B18C5-EH2

One more thing:

If you get a COMPLETE swap you'll get:

Engine
Tranny
Engine harness
Shift Linkage
Axles
Mounts
Catalytic convertor
All hoses and sensors

The motor bolts in easily - bolts in just like any other B-Series motors.

Wiring? Easy.

USDM B18C5 swaps are a breeze. KEEP the B18C5 engine harness because it plugs right into the Civic harnesses under the hood. This way you get to keep the ITR injectors and you do not have to swap or rewire the distributor - the ITR one will work just fine.

Then get a 1992-1995 Si/EX and Del Sol Si P28 ECU and have it reprogrammed. The user kenji here on H-T did mine and Apex-i's ECUs, and we both agree that the re-chipped P28 runs much better than the JDM ITR or USDM ITR P73 ECU does.

Any other specific Q's?


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 3:37 AM 4/21/2002]

B18C5-EH2

A/C? Sure.

Buy a 1994-1997 Del Sol VTEC A/C bracket. Make sure you tell the dealer it's for a DOHC VTEC Del Sol.

Power steering? Keep it too. No problems there. Use the P/S bracket that comes on the motor.

If for some reason you don't get a complete swap, these parts will work just fine too:

Axles:

1994-2001 Integra Axles - ANY Integra. ABS or not, doesn't matter.
1994-1997 Del Sol VTEC axles (DOHC again)
1999-2000 Civic Si Axles (DOHC again)

Shift Linkage:

1994-2001 Integra - any
1999-2000 Civic Si

Radiator Hoses:

1994-1997 Del Sol VTEC or 1999-2000 Civic Si

Any other things you can think of?

Jonathan_ED3

does Kenji reprogram the ECU's to stock ITR specs or what? cuz i'll need one...i'm about to order my USDM ITR swap from hondamotors, and i guess all i'll need is that P28 ECU? It's not going to be modded much at all..mostly stock. so will a stock program be the best for the rechipped one?

B18C5-EH2

Apex i ITR:

Change your signature eh?

!!!

JFWY

yupuhhuh

When you did this swap did it take long? And was there any other parts needed to be bought before i start it? Also i have never attempted a swap, but my uncle knows what hes doin. I know i have to run a vtec wire, but r there any other wires that need to be run? Thanks

B18C5-EH2

Done 3 of these Type R swaps into 1992 Civics. What year is yours? If it's a 1992 it needs NO additional wiring for VTEC - even if it's a CX, DX, or LX model w/o VTEC already. All 1992 ?Civics are pre-wired for VTEC If you have P/S then you probably have an Si/EX, right? No extra wiring if you run the P28 ECU. P73 will need additional wiring - more the reason to NOT use one!

Other parts?

Del Sol VTEC or ITR throttle cable
Coolant
Honda Manual Tranny Fluid
Motor Oil P/S fluid if you keep P/S

I'm thinking...

yupuhhuh

I know AC robs power when its on, is there a auto cut off that someone make that i can get? Also where can i get a p28 ecu? The swap comes with the p73. I dont really know to much of this ****, so thanks for answerin all these questions.

B18C5-EH2

Please tell me what kind of car you drive right now.

yupuhhuh

I will be gettin a 92 hatch now. I am lookin for the right one, i have found a couple and they were pretty beat.

Lookincrazy

hey b18c5-eh2 what if you want to drop a c1 in a EG dx? is it the same thing or different work and how bout the wiring?thanx

B18C5-EH2

Same applies except you'll need to run the GS-R P72 ECU and wire up the secondary buterfly **** too.

TodaSi

I'm putting my 99 Civic Si/ITR bottom end into my 92 Civic Cx. Will I need a throttle cable, or can I use the Cx's? This is the first I've heard of it.

willyboyK20

I have a question...what about the vtec pressure wire on JDM motors or the lack thereof. If I use a usdm motor won't i get a check engine light because of the wire not being there and the usdm ecu is looking for the signa?

SIINSI

I think you can modify a bracket for the throttle cable also but, I could be wrong.

Miguel

GokuSSJ4

Miguel what weight reduction have you done to your car??
i remember from an old post that you even took the front support off , since you only use the car for drag . what other things have you done?

WykidEH

To the people that has the B18C5 in a '92-'95 hatch. Have you all ran them in the 1/4mile? If so, what do they run?

"SPOON EG"

13's easily.....

Short_Shifter

B18C5-EH2 :-

clarify something for me . if someone is dropping a B18C5 into a EG , the b18 engine harness plugs into the civic harness . and once the P28 ECU is use there is now wiring to be done ?

how about a B18C1 in a EG ...... if the integra engine harness is used does it pulg in that easy? if the P28 is used , what wiring has to be done ? ( other than the secondaries )

hybrider

the 2ndarys can be a bitch...you need to switch a17 to a20 and of course hopefully your swap came with the IAB in tact (solenoid-vaccum tank)

i dont quit understand your p28 question, but it wont control the 2ndarys, thus they will be open all the time resulting in a pretty noticable torque loss.