paniaguae640

i have a 1992 honda civic lx and i was planning on doing an engine swap to a b18c5. I wanted to know if this engine just pops right in or do i have to make it fit. Also I am planning on later boosting, and would this engine be good for boosting? and also can i have the definition of LSD?

z6hatchboy

With some hasport mounts it should drop right in, Its compression ratio is a bit high for boosting on pump gas though. LSD=limited slip differential. Both wheels have power instead of one, basically.

*edit*, theres some wiring to so as well

preludedriva

yeah dont turbo a C5 even with amazing tuning it wont las ttoo long due to the high comp
end up bending a rod eventually

get a ls if you wanna turbo

i think all you need is a B series driver side mount and i THINK a B series rear T mount

B series shift linkage

and axles but besides that it should drop right in

paniaguae640

what kind of gas would i need and where would i get it?

iBear

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It's a pretty straight forward swap.

Go NA with the c5. It's compression is a bit higher than other motors.

paniaguae640

the thing is i want an engine that pops right in with minor adjustments that will give me power and that i can boost at the same time, what engine would fit this description?

z6hatchboy

If you were to turbo a c5 you'd probably need race fuel and a amazing tune, but its impractical. If your still going c5 (n/a of course) though, just use medium or high grade from the pump

Schister66

If you plan on boosting in the future, you may as well get a GSR and swap a set of ITR cams over. The slightly lower compression will allow you to make a little more power on pump gas without worry. Either way you'll be able to make a little over 300whp on stock with the proper fuel.

paniaguae640

GSR is b18c right?

z6hatchboy

yes or the usdm b18c1

Schister66

B18C1 is the GSR

The B18C is the JDM version which has a higher compression ratio IIRC....

paniaguae640

how many horsepower does the b18c1 stock come with?

Schister66

About 155whp in stock form. When boosted they'll safely handle ~300whp on pump gas. I made 315whp on my stock GSR for 2 years on 91octane pump gas...

iBear

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May I ask why you're so set on boosting it?

I don't want to make assumptions, but people I know just want to "boost" their car because it's the only thing that'll make their car fast. I'm not saying boost is bad, but researching turbos AND normally aspirated motors will give you a better insight on modifications and tuning.

Plus, you'll know how to do things right the first time and not waste and/or money.

z6hatchboy

Even with someone that is knowledgable is n/a and boost setup: If 300whp(because thats what schister had) is the goal, heres some questions for you. How much money would it take to hit that on a n/a setup compared to boost, which would be more practical?

Schister66

I agree with iBear...i think you need to research more before jumping into anything. I've heard countless people tell me (on HT and around town) that they're going to boost their car....99% of the time its just BS. Know what you're getting yourself into and plan accordingly.

For 300whp, the only practical option is boost. You theoretically can make that much power NA, but on a B series, its going to cost you an arm and a leg to do it. For the same price as a 300whp NA build, i could make 600whp on a boosted setup.

iBear

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Of course boost is more bang for the buck.

Again I'm not saying this towards the OP, but people just slap on a turbo and call it a day. Adding a turbo consists of more than that, tuning, fuel delivery, etc etc.

All I was saying was that if he wants to swap in a Type R motor, he'd be better off going NA. A B16, LS, or GSR would be more suitable for him and his goals.

Schister66

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I agree to a point....you CAN turbo an ITR. It makes for a great street setup, but the higher compression does limit the amount of power you can make. As i suggested earlier in this thread, a better option for boostability (i know that's not a word ) and cost, would be a GSR with a set of ITR cams.

iBear

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^^ Oh, of course. You definitely can turbo an ITR. It'll cost you an arm and a leg though.

z6hatchboy

I believe the both of you ibear and schister (nice grammar) have the answer for the op

.I.Need.Money.

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end up bending a rod eventually
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Misinformation FTL

Schister66

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I try...i hate trying to decipher what people post; therefore, i write in a logical manner WITH punctuation. It could also be that, as a psych major, i have to write a lot of papers...i guess if nothing else, those have helped me make better posts on Honda-tech. Who said college doesn't pay off

ke98248

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no head lift or blowing head gaskets?

preludedriva

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how is it misinformation? its high comp and you are pressurizing the cylinders even more with boost stock rods can only handle so much

best bang for buck in my opinion is an B18a/b1 block with a b16 or gsr tranny turboed tuned on crome pro ftw
its lower compression so you can run a little bit more boost if you wanted or stay at a safe 6 psi (IMO)

makin 260 whp and 230 trq at 10 psi been rockin it for over 2 years now

hondas (until now with the RDX) were ment for NA not boost....if you are going for reliable you might wanna do internals (pistons and rods)

you got 3 things in mind
cheap, reliability, and being fast

you can only pick 2

then again what do i know

.I.Need.Money.

It's just ignorant when people say you "can't" or "shouldn't" boost an R motor. Or it won't last long, it'll blow up. That's just common HT bad info...

I have seen numerous 300+ whp boosted R's, running 6-8 even 10lbs of boost safley on a very good tune. That is the key. (TUNING) Hell, my cousin hasn't had an issue with his turbo R and that's been running strong for almost 3 years now. There's also a few of them on HT.

Sure it's more difficult to work with and a greater possibilty for disaster if you're an idiot, but if you know what you're doing, then there is no problem.

I personally wouldn't boost a B18C5, I'd rather go with a B18C1 if I was headed in that direction. Hell, I also wouldn't go FI. I'm a N/A guy.

Anyway... just thought I'd clear that up.