isckeg

well this is my set up 95 b18c1 110000 on motor 80000 on 98 ls tranny every thing stock i did remove the secondary butterflies <IAB> and ice man cold air. I really not that impressed with the gsr i know the ls tranny has a lot to do with it, but come on all that kraze over the gsr i dont see it. dont get me wrong im a honda junkie since 96 i just expected more from this swap really. i know its all stock but still im seriously considering going to a f22b1 turbo the torque on those motors are so much better. i'll see if i change my mind after i get my hands on a b16 tranny, any body needs a ls tranny 600.00 its yours call me 912 729 3999 kingsland ga nikk 1sck2dr. if i like it after the tranny swap ill start putting money into it.

Street Ghost

the tranny..

EK k kay

Yeah it's the tranny. Long gears make your motor feel weak.

Revolver

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You've got a gsr with an intake, and a long geared tranny....what did you expect?

92eh3si

did u get to run anybody yet?
i say u get some b16 tranny and go turbo

isckeg

ya i ran at jax raceways dont know the time cause it was down at the time but i lined up against a black desol with a complete gsr swap with only a intake also, and got smoked i parked it after that this tranny suks big time i dont see how it could be good for turbo honda engines power in the higher rpm, maybe if you were to swap out the final drive i see it being alittle better but still i would rather run a gsr for turbo and a b16 for naturall aspirated thats my opion. any one lokkin for ls tranny call me its yours

Street Ghost

who sed the LS tranny was good for turbo?

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whats better(shorter/acceleration)? a b18b LS teg tranny or a D16Y8 civic ex tranny?

just curious

Luserkid

He probably heard the old rumor "Long gears are great for turbo" To bad that rumor was such bullshit. GSR tranny is by far the best tranny/gear ratio for turbo (very debatable i know but it is).

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just curious</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uhh..... the EX has a shorter gear ratio. But you couldnt put one on the other motor (aka LS tranny on Y8 or Y8 tranny on LS). But the Y8 has shorter gears.

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so why did honda put such big gears on the b18b ls? is it cuz they wanted to tame down the torque it has?

isckeg

i would say the y8 tranny all the way i had a 98 y8 tranny on my last setup d16z6 it made a big differance ive ran both z6 and y8 both are the same to me but hella better than the ls tranny . ls trany are for those who buy a b series long block b18c1, b18b1,b16a1-2, b20b, b18a1, and is workin ona budget and just want put the b series swap in and drive already! dont make that mistake like i did save up the 200.00 more dollars and get a b16 or gsr! for sure

Lord Helmet

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possiblity: fuel economy, it is the non-performance version B18, cost, etc....

hondaeg8

i have a jdm gsr swap with a b16 tranny and i like it

94_HATCH

I am sure you would love the gsr inyour hatch if you put a gsr or b16 tranny in there. Ive been in a few gsr eg's and they are definitely not slow. also why did you take out the secondaries....? Are you using a gsr ecu or something else?

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tame down the torque? its not like its an h22.....

Hatchamaback

now a LS with b16 tranny totally owns man.

isckeg

im using the p72 notsocivic i think thats his screen name his real name is kevin told me too, hes from ga too should i have left it in, hey you gotme thinking i did some thing wrong did i

Jmunk

I would have left them in there, Honda engineers spent a long time working on them and put them in there for a reason, when i finally got mine working after a bad solenoid it was a big difference. I bet your bottom end sucks.

PhoebeusFenix

Why exactly did you get a b18c1 with a ls tranny anyway? Did it just come with that setup? Im just asking because I too will be putting a b18c1 into my eg hatch and building it and then boosting it. Just wondering.

White Lightnin

I have an eg with the GSR swap, and while it is not fast by any means it is definitely quick.

You should have left in the butterflies unless you are using a different ecu. Mine didnt work until very recently, and I think hooking them up made a difference.

The tranny is also killing you.

I know mine feels like it has more grunt than a b16 swap, h22 in my friends prelude etc...

EJ6_Hatch

is the LS tranny longer than the y7? ive heard the y7 is extremely long, and thats what I use daily

FATBOYeg6

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don't feel bad...i have a vx. the gearing is only good for one thing, economy.

EJ6_Hatch

yeah, ive got a y7/y8 mini me in there, but everyone ive talked to says that it doesnt matter what I do to the engine, the tranny is going to retard it. oh well, school is where my cash is right now anyways.

jinxmrp

I have a 2000 USDM B18C1 in a '93 Civic Si. I know what you mean about the swap. I was thinking it was going to be a bit quicker. I have the GSR tranny too. Haven't done a whole lot of research on GSR motor and how to get more power out of them (ie. like the secondary butterflies). I just don't feel anything I could really call power until 6,000 RPMs. 2,000 RPMs of power is kind of weak sauce in my opinion. I'm planning on putting a b16 head on it and boosting it, so hopefully that'll help. Just doesn't feel as powerful as some B16s I've seen or had in CRXs. I'm not sure how much having the stock Si exhaust is hindering it, but hopefully after I get exhaust it'll make a noticable difference. Good luck with your car.

IHateJDM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jinxmrp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 2000 USDM B18C1 in a '93 Civic Si. I know what you mean about the swap. I was thinking it was going to be a bit quicker. I have the GSR tranny too. Haven't done a whole lot of research on GSR motor and how to get more power out of them (ie. like the secondary butterflies). I just don't feel anything I could really call power until 6,000 RPMs. 2,000 RPMs of power is kind of weak sauce in my opinion. I'm planning on putting a b16 head on it and boosting it, so hopefully that'll help. Just doesn't feel as powerful as some B16s I've seen or had in CRXs. I'm not sure how much having the stock Si exhaust is hindering it, but hopefully after I get exhaust it'll make a noticable difference. Good luck with your car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

93 si is much heavier than a crx, that's why the b16 felt quicker. And not having power at 2k rpms just means you drive a honda. They only make power up top. If you want power at low revs, get a V8.

legoman

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