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Old 09-14-2002, 02:32 PM
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Default B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions

I know this might be more of a hybrid forum question, but I really want the response from the owners of EG's. So B18C5-EH2 PLEASE keep this in mind.

I have a CX and I have heard that replacing the radiator and fuel pump are good ideas.

1. What radiator would be recommended for this particular swap (N/A motor)? I don't think I am going to keep my A/C(what do I need to keep it anyway?).

2. I was looking at the Walbro 255lph fuel pump, and I was wondering if I would use the 92-00 Civic pump, or the 94-95 Integra Pump. Also would I select the high pressure pump or the standard?

3. I know that replacing the clutch is a wise idea as well. I have been leaning towards an ACT, but I really don't know what kind of setup would be ideal for my needs(basically a daily driven N/A motor).

4. I have also waited to put an Apex-i WS exhaust on, and I was wondering what high flow cat I could use to make this a bolt on experience.

Thank you, and I appreciate all responses and suggestions.
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1. If you're keeping A/C then get either a DEl Sol VTEC or 1992-195 automatic Civic radiator. Both are double thick. If you don't keep A/C then get a 1994-up Integra radiator. It's an easy drop in after you move the lower mounts by drilling out the spot welds and reattaching them with either self-tapping bolts or rewelding.

2. Simply upgrade with a 1994-up Integra fuel pump or at least a 1992-1995 Si/EX pump. If you want the best then get the ITR/GS-R pump. Just but from a slavage yard and save BIG bucks. That should supply you with all your N/A fuel needs.

3. ACT is awesome. I've had 3 and they are great. My fiancee's car has had an ACT in for 2 years now and it still grabs hard after the beatings it's taken. Get the Xtreme Pressure Plate and the hybrid-lined stree disc.

4. I've heard nothing but good things about CarSound and Random Technology cats. I run an ITR cat so I can't tell you from experience on either high flow one I listed - just from what others have said.

That about it?
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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (B18C5-EH2)

1. So if I do decide to keep my A/C, the 92-95 Civic radiator will be a bolt-on affair?
What else do I need to do to put the CX A/C onto the B18C1? A list of parts would be greatly appreciated!

2. So the Walbro fuel pump is over kill for what I plan on doing?

3. I will definitely check out this set-up. How does the clutch engagement feel? Does it still feel stock, or is it harder to engage?

4. Correct me if I am wrong, the 94-95 B18C1 exhaust manifold leads to the catalytic converter, which would then connect to my cat back exhaust. So what is the diameter of the piping on the exhaust manifold. I am basically wondering what size high flow cat to get, and if it would just bolt onto the exhaust without any modification from a muffler shop.

Thanks Tom for the response, I really appreciate it. I wanted to IM you, but I figured you are too busy with the moderator job (keep up the good work).




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1. You'll need a Del Sol VTEC A/C bracket. You keep everything else from your stock Civic A/C.

2. Yes. I think O.E Honda is hard to beat in terms of quality, plus the GS-R/ITR pump is great for N/A stuff.

3. Clutch feels awesome. Very streetable, but stiffer pedal. If my fiancee' can drive it in Atlanta traffic than any of you could.

4. If it's a USDM 1994-1995 GS-R swap then you'll probably have to get your exhaust extended 2-3 inches if you run the GS-R cat. I know I had to do this when I had a GS-R swap in my 1992 Si hatch.

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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (B18C5-EH2)

Thank you. I just made a few calls to local junkyards, and it seems as though the radiator and fuel pump are going to be a tough item to find.

Is there anywhere else I can check to get these parts? I was think IAS, don't they have these kinds of things?

The engine is actually JDM(sorry if I messed up on the engine code, I thought it was a B18C1). So I probably will have to have a muffler shop do the install of the exhaust/cat.

Does anyone know what size cat I should get?

Also, what kinds of things shouls I expect to replace when I do the swap? So far my list is this:
Timing belt, water pump, cap/rotor, plugs. I have heard that I need to replace some seals/gaskets, but I don't really know what is meant by "replacing all seals and gaskets."


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Just need a few more questions answered, thanks guys/gals
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1-800-962-8922

That's the number to I.A.S - they'll probably have the fuel pump.

Radiator? They'll probably have the GS-R ones used, but they sell the Del Sol dual cores brand new if I'm not mistaken.

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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (93SSPHatch)

Thanks Tom! I called and left a message with Larry about 4 days ago regarding the price of a 94-95 B18C1 swap, but he has yet to get back to me.

Can you help me out with this part of the swap. . .

Also, what kinds of things should I expect to replace when I do the swap? So far my list is this:
Timing belt, water pump, cap/rotor, plugs. I have heard that I need to replace some seals/gaskets, but I don't really know what is meant by "replacing all seals and gaskets."
Thanks again!


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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (93SSPHatch)

It all depends on mileage really.

I personally wouldn't replace T-Blt and Waterpump on a 30K mile motor, but it's your call.

Clutch is the first thing I'd do, then the minor tune-up items like plugs, wires, rotor button, etc.
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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (93SSPHatch)

What up mahn use your stock radiator and fan as far as a fuel pump i had no problems with my stock cx fuel pump but you might want to upgrade if you are gonna use larger injectors than the stock B series
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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (B18C5-EH2)

See the problem I am having is the ECT. part. Everyone always says "etc" and I never know what they are talking about.

I have only been a member of HT for a few months, so I really don't know much about engines(I learn something new everytime I come online).

Does anyone care to expand on "etc"

By the way Tom, I totally agree with you about the timing belt, but how do I really know how many miles are going to be on my JDM engine.
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etc. is short for Etcetera (sp?) which basically means "and so on"
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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (93SSPHatch)

but how do I really know how many miles are going to be on my JDM engine.
I have often wondered this as well, I always see jdm engines advertised as "under 30k, or under 60k. Is this true? How could you tell?
my local salvage yard, had some gsr fuel pumps ($45) when I was there the other day, they ship too.


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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (Extent)

If you have a Helms manual as you should, it will list a changing interval for parts people are supposed to changed based on mileage. City driving is considered "extreme" or "hard" or whatever term they use in there, I don't havea Helms handy. Anyway, just check that for things to replace, it's fairly accurate.

Radiators = del Sol dual core if you're poor, or there are nice aluminum 1/2/3 cores out there from companies like koyo/fluidyne/c&r/etc.

Fuel pump I wouldn't bother with until your fuel pressure starts to crap out on the top end. If you're not going beyond bolt-ons it's really not needed, IMO.

I'm happy with my Exedy/Fidanza combo clutchwise, don't know many people anymore that run ACTs.

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Default Re: B18C1 in 1993 CX, a few questions (SkyeC)

Radiators = del Sol dual core if you're poor, or there are nice aluminum 1/2/3 cores out there from companies like koyo/fluidyne/c&r/etc.
What would you recommend for a NA motor that will eventually reach 200whp?

Fuel pump I wouldn't bother with until your fuel pressure starts to crap out on the top end. If you're not going beyond bolt-ons it's really not needed, IMO.
How will I know when my fuel pressure starts to crap out at top end. I assume dyno testing will unlock all my answers. If the pressure does crap out, will I need to purchase a new fuel pump/fpr/and VAFC?

Thanks for the replies.

P.S. I was well aware of what "ECT." stands for, I just was not sure what other maintenance items were included in "ETC." I assume you were just kidding around so a to you.

Thanks SkyeC for the realistic response.
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