EcRzFinesT

Okay so ive got a b16a2 from a 00 si, and i currently have the stock intake manifold on the car. However i have a Skunk2 intake mani for the car sitting by my feet(literally, its on the floor near this table my comp is on) . So now ive been debatin on putting it on, since supposeably the b16a2 stock mani is very similar to the skunk2 and i also read it performs better with stock motors. All i have in intake, headers, exhaust. Any input would be appreciated

raidacaipo

If it was that great there would be no such thing as a Type R manifold since the b16 and type R motors share the same head.. I say install the Skunk2 Manifold

EcRzFinesT

http://htarchive.org/showthread.php?t=1264754

p30 mani is supposed to be very similar to the type r, and type r is almost the same to skunk2, therefore the p30 mani is similar to skunk2

tallguy21

I couldn't tell you what is better then the other, but if you have it sitting there you could always throw it on....if it's no worse and could possibly be better i'd do it....just by going by the information you have above ^^

EcRzFinesT

The only thing with me is that, if i install it, and i dont gain or instead lose power, then y not just sell it and have 200 bucks in my pocket. Id only install it if it is going to be some what of an improvement

raidacaipo

Your basing your stats on one guys post? I thought that thread was gonna come with a graph from a dyno or something. Like I said if b16 manifolds were that great to begin with, they wouldn't have come up with a Type R manifold since they both use the same head

-__-

the skunk2 manifold is designed after the type-r manifold. the type-r manifold sees gains only after like 8500rpm. if you are not going to rev that high, then theres no need for it. it looks nice though lol. if i were you, i would sell it for like $220

sk8shorty012

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Only if you're focused on high RPM gains, 7,000 + roughly. For mid-range, normal driving I'd agree the P30 is best.

EcRzFinesT

Finally ppl that understand where im comming from! lol the only thing thats preventing me from selling it is looks. I daily drive it, so im not redlining it everyday, so i think the p30 is best for me. And when i dyno it, the car makes max power around 7900 so there isnt any point of the skunk2 since im never reving till 9 or atleast i wont be makiin much power up there

Deetz

Great answers guys, you are both right on the money!

NotAJDMFanBoy

Totally agree with what's been said. But, if you build the motor and rev higher, have higher compression and hotter cams, the Skunk2 would work in completing the whole setup to make more top end.

However, typically these aftermarket intakes shift the power band, so you'd lose bottom end.

Even if you don't use it or especially if you do, do more research. I personally think it's pretty awesome how much science goes into all of this. It's all about harmonics and waves bouncing. And who doesn't like bouncing?

EcRzFinesT

Hondas are know for hp and no torque, so y lose the low end that we are already weak at. The top end is always strong due to VTEC! And i dont plan on building the motor as this is my daily

NotAJDMFanBoy

If you upgrade everything else you'd gain low end. One thing alone won't do much is all.
Plenty of people build their daily drivers. As long as you use common sense and do your research, building it is fine. Using cast pistons or low expansion forged ones, keeping compression sane, some ITR cams, you'd have a reasonable, more fun, reliable car.

You can pick up used B16s cheap. I saw a shortblock for $75 the other day.

Deetz

I picked up a full B16 longblock for $100 ...they are cheap now!

As far as having no tq, well, bigger engines make more power. My last B20Z swap, i had so much tq, i could smoke the tires with any more than simply 1/2 throttle at any speed in 1st, lol

fabioso

a guy I worked with spent a weekend doing the swap on his heavy integra and didn't feel any difference. In fact, he said it might have lost a little midrange. He was pissed. I'm no honda expert but I bet on a bigger motor the powerband of that manifold would be moved down a tad.

hondaman991

The skunk2 is a good mani but you have to consider the fact that if you put the skunk2 on the car you would prob lose power unless you had the following upgrades mildly ported head, cams, cam gears, valves, upgraded pistons, bigger throttle body bigger injectors, etc alot of people get sucked in by name brand products OH THIS INTAKE WILL INCREASE POWER OF THE ENTIRE RPM RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 10 HP sound familiar hahaha but what is failed to be mentioned is that you will NOT gain anything by just installing the intake mani without first doing what I just mentioned. If you plan on upgrading all of the above then yes install the skunk2 however, if you do not plan on doing such work then just keep the stock intake manifold right where it is.