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Old 10-23-2003, 07:46 PM
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Default B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!!

Who in here has a B16A2 SiRII in their EG hatch? What 1/4 mile times are you guys posting? Whats the potential if I build it up for NA as in 1/4 mile times and also be daily driven. The reason I'm asking is because my D16Z6 just gave out on me and I'm looking into doing a DOHC swap. Just so happened a friend of mine knows someone selling the B16A2 complete swap for 2k. Also...is my wiring and ecu compatible...i have a cx with a 95 Si swapTIA!!
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (Synergy001)

what most people would say...lots of variables...or....take it to the track and let us know..but ill help..
you're looking at low 15's to high 14's in a eg going n/a stock motor with bolt on's....now if you were to boost, you're looking 13's to high 12's depending on what turbo system, management system, boost, etc..
like i said...too many variables..also depends on the driver as well
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i believe that i am a good driver. i piloted my sohc vtec NA motor to 13.8. i dont want to put anymore money into the sohc because i already spent a lot on it. i think its time for the sohc to retire because i got almost 200k on it. i'd rather pay for a dohc motor and start off fast and then go from there.
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13.8 with an n/a sohc motor is
was it with nitrous?
you wont be that fast with a stock b16a2 with bolt on's..at most high to mid 14's average
Old 10-23-2003, 08:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pennies_hatchie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">13.8 with an n/a sohc motor is
was it with nitrous?
you wont be that fast with a stock b16a2 with bolt on's..at most high to mid 14's average</TD></TR></TABLE>
naw...NO nitrous NO turbo...just a good mechanic from my crew who did my motor work and tuning.
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I have stock 1994 JDM SiR-II in EJ11 coupe chassis (the heavy EX with power everything, sunroof etc) with short ram intake, full interior, etc. Goes 15.2@98mph before fuel tuning/gutting. SiR-II is a good way to go for this chassis in my opinion. Nice high revving engine. As far as potential, well, that Eric whatshisface guy is running 9's on a similar engine n/a i believe, and the Roger Foo Speedvision car whooped up, placing #1 at Laguna Seca with some headwork n/a.

Also, the engine dyno'd 151.5HP and 109 TQ. Could use some torque but pulls like a motha high-end.

Also, there is nothing quite like revving to 9,000 rpm every day.
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well with that good of a tuner, the possibilities are endless..
you should definately get it... but i would drop the b16 block and get a b18 or b20 block for the long run...just more torque
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I guess not many people own B16A2's out there
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (zelifcam)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zelifcam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have stock 1994 JDM SiR-II in EJ11 coupe

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Also, there is nothing quite like revving to 9,000 rpm every day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

uh oh..

you might want to think twice about keeping that up. .especially if u want to keep your motor bro.. :D
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Well I was running a b16a3 in my EG chassis. With 150k miles on the motor and tranny I was still running high 14 second 1/4's pretty damn stock in Texas weather.
Oh yeah, and if you wired your car for the SOHC Vtec, you shouldn't need to rewire anything.
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (Synergy001)

I have that setup. But haven't made it to the track yet. I was able to pull a 15.2 @89 with a d16z6. So now with a b16 I'm gunning for low 14's Will See i have to drag on 15" wheels due to the brakes but the car is gutted pretty much with a roll bar. Last weight was 2150 with my 180 IB but in it.

I might try once before the snow closes everything down here. If so I'll post back up.
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (DX Hybridizer)

actually the sirII motor is a b16a..isnt the b16a2 out of the civic (si..usdm) (sir..canadaadian) damn canadians
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (Touge Panda)

True, but thats why I threw my b16a3 in there. Same motor, maybe a slight increase in c/r but times should be pretty close to the same for a general idea.
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (ill phil)

b16a2 in eh2, 13.8 NA.......
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (ill phil)

For a stock B16 in an EG, I'd say 1/4 times should be in the 14's. Lower if the driver is more experienced.

I have yet to run the 1/4 mile with my setup yet, but my goal is low 14's-- full interior, and all my heavy mods
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Default Re: B16A2 SiRII owners I need your help!! (zelifcam)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zelifcam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have stock 1994 JDM SiR-II...there is nothing quite like revving to 9,000 rpm every day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah whatever. Thats complete bullshit.

Stock JDM SiR 2 motors limit at 8200.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuZioNxMaxBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For a stock B16 in an EG, I'd say 1/4 times should be in the 14's. Lower if the driver is more experienced.
I have yet to run the 1/4 mile with my setup yet, but my goal is low 14's-- full interior, and all my heavy mods </TD></TR></TABLE>

And good luck with that one too. How about some valid information posting?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah whatever. Thats complete bullshit.

Stock JDM SiR 2 motors limit at 8200. </TD></TR></TABLE> hahaha w3rd, theres no power in that motor past 8500 for sure....... i know cause i run 13's with one.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THE B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> hahaha w3rd, theres no power in that motor past 8500 for sure....... i know cause i run 13's with one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how in the hell are u running 13.8s with a b16 siR II???? i am not doubting u but the norm in my area are high 14's and i already did that with a b18b motor. are u using slicks or street tires or drag radials????? looking for an idea also about this motor's 1/4 potential.
is ur motor stock or do u have cams, valvetrain ect???
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check out my sig for pics. Stock b16a2, changed to OBD 1 chipped p28 stripped on slicks and LSD....plus I'm an OK driver I guess.
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have u ever ran it w/o slicks to see what it would be as a street driven car????
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only on the g-tech pro never at the track.. from that on 16 inch rota c8's I ran a 14.17 and a 14.25. Not bad but it's your 60ft on street tires that kills you.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah whatever. Thats complete bullshit.

Stock JDM SiR 2 motors limit at 8200.

And good luck with that one too. How about some valid information posting?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cocky little guy are ya, what do you drive? BTW, I never said my car or my motor was stock.

Stock limiter is 8200, yes. I agree it does sound like bs, But maybe he has a chipped ECU?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuZioNxMaxBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Cocky little guy are ya, what do you drive?

Stock limiter is 8200, yes. I agree it does sound like bs, But maybe he has a chipped ECU? </TD></TR></TABLE> even if he does, he's just floating the valves..and still not making power at 9000 RPM..... I can take mine to 9000 but why?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THE B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> even if he does, he's just floating the valves..and still not making power at 9000 RPM..... I can take mine to 9000 but why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. Not saying he can't.. he can, but why!

Unless you have upgraded cams..
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Guys with inner and outter springs espically aftermarket and a cam. You can make plenty more power up to 9. Since he was vague on what he has it's easy to assume. But With a Toda Spec b or c Cam and upgraded valve train you can spin a stock block to 9 and make power the whole way. I'd be getting worried about the lower end but it would probablly be ok.


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