clos2193

i have a ek and i want some power... do you think a b16a2 would satisfy me with a mild build? cuz i dont i want to go all out on a motor im driving on everyday... so is a b16 enough power for a ek?

jbpnoman

You don't drive an EK. Check your VIN and get it right.

You can put together a mild turbo kit for less than swapping in a B16A2, and make considerably more power.

00cvcdx

ej6 for the win ek9 is civic type r

clos2193

98 hatch better? lol i want all motor so im not dealing with turbo problems... is it good enough?

jbpnoman

"good enough" is a completely subjective and worthless assessment, and "98 hatch" is still leaving out important information, like the trim.

Some numbers for you.

B16A2
160hp
111lb.ft

D16Y7
106hp
103lb.ft

D16Y8
127hp
107lb.ft

So you tell me, is ~30hp (more like 20-25, after age and parasitic loss are accounted for) really worth the time, effort, and money it'll take to drop in that B16A2?

HondaPartsHero

To be honest I've never been impressed with the B16A in 92-00 hatches, for DD it'll be fine. I'm considering going with a B18/B20 with a GSR trans in my 96 just because I want something with a little more bottom end for DDing without having to rev the crap out it. I've had a B16 in my 89 hatch years ago and it was plenty, but the car also was a bit lighter so it evened out for power/weight more than the B16 in a 92-00. Just my 2 cents.

fabioso

I always hear how b16s are weak yet most get all wet and wild over the 99-00 si. If your going to spend the money might as well go h23 as you can get them for under a grand.
200hp with a ton of torque.

redjones

My EM1 is stock, perfect daily driver. Having a B16 in your HB will be a great choice.

phelpsj2

I have a 00 hatch with a b16a2 and I think its a fun little car around town. 25-30 hp not seem like much, but my b16 hatch is way quicker, and mroe fun to drive than my old single cam coupe. I think youll enjoy the b16, but it can get alil boring after a while, if your going to swap id think about a gsr (b18c1) which will have more and more hp. but if your set on the b16 its not as gutless as people make it to seem. Ive been suprised with how my b16 has performed, beating lsvtecs, b18s non gsr, b20s, and it keeps right up with a few v8s. you can probably find one decently cheap, make sure u get a b16 or gsr tranny though. DONT PUT AN LS tranny on...the b16 will really have no ***** then.

clos2193

im not tryna have a track car... i juss wanna have a clean motor that i can drive 60+ miles a day not have a head ache about gas and be able to have some power so when i wanna have fun..

EL MIGGZ

iTrader: (2)

go b16, i had a eh (diff chassis i know) with b16 perfect commuter car, wouldn't waste much gas, and when i wanted to have fun it wouldn't let me down. and if later down the road you want MORE power you buy a b20 short block, reuse your b16 head and trans and bam b20v.

just my 2 cents my friend

clos2193

thanks bro that helps a lot... really leaning towards the b16

phelpsj2

couldnt have said it any better, or a gsr short block would be ideal to oneday with ur b16 head, itr cams, poormans type r. id say go with a b16, i can drive like an *** all over town delivering pizza all week getting 300 miles to a tank atleast, and i hit vtec alot. alot of people will hate on the b16, but i laugh everytime i either beat them, or stay right with them and there suprised i got a 1.6l under the hood.

Deetz

Speaking from a lot of experience, i will never buy a b16 again, unless it's for parts.

For the same money it would cost for the b16, you could go b20z and make way....more...power!

I even owned both engines in both cars at the same time, the b20 would walk the b16, it was far more powerful throughout the rpm's and more fun to drive!!

here's my last 96 hatch......

DubK97EK

i have a b16a2 in my 97 ek hatch. my very first car actually. didnt even know how to drive stick. and yes it saves so much gas and when i do wanna have fun, it pulls well. you guys are making me not wanting to trade my car. im bout to trade for a 4 dr teg with a jdm front and im keeping my motor. need 4 drs for MORE ******. lol jk.

'96-EJ6Hatch

^^^ Thirding what they said. The B16 will be plenty fun and leave you with good options. I'm lookin' at hmotorsonline.com right now for possible choices on swaps. I asked where to buy a JDM swap in a thread about a day ago. Pricier than a private party but you know what your getting. This thread may give you a little info on that route:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/where-should-i-buy-jdm-motor-online-3036947/

teaks92hb

I completely agree with Deetz. B20z is an amazing engine for what it is. Had one with an si tranny in my hatch. Loved it.

Deetz

Yes, it really is something It's funny, this thread gets started asking about honest opinions, and most of them are bias...as in many people who have a b16 will defend it, saying it's this great deal for the money......i mean it's alright, BUT, i am providing an even BETTER option, and my opinion is unbias.

In fact, my old project car, an 89 crx si has a b16 that i haven't even used, it going to get ripped right back out of there again from when it was installed 10 years ago....and yes, a bigger replacement is going back in....i love TORQUE!

doood

iTrader: (1)

you wanna save gas, leave whatever single cam motor that's in there alone.

teaks92hb

I currently have a 2000 si..and my opinion..its really not that great, as far as power goes. I love the car. But if I had the money and felt like ruining the car I would swap another motor in it. But for what it is, it's ok. But look into the B20Z.

SKAVENGER88

I have a eg with a b16a2 in it fun really peppy great on gas. It's always a good option and worth getting for the head alone. Cuz later down the line if u want more power could always turbo or ls/v or b20/v

tyfoxx0608

B16 = for me was great, I liked it but to be honest for me a DD would have to have more torque and not be so rev happy. You say with a mild build so Im assuming your talking basic bolt ons. That should be a fun car while still reliable. But if your doing 60 mile driving a day, if its highway hell it might be annoying with the wrong exhaust. I cant remember how high the revs were cruising at 80 on the highway but that **** was loud for me.

Arthas

B16 lol...


I used to walk on those all day long with my D16Y8+T. I completely lost all faith in swaps after that!

tyfoxx0608

Your missing the point. He says he want non turbo DD with a little fun. Yeah turbo can be reliable but your comparing apples to oranges. If your saying just turbo a D and you can walk on B NA then your correct and most likely cheaper. Thats like saying lol why mod a S when it cost me 3gs for bolt ons and EMS for 20hp when my 8 cost me less than a grand to get 30-40hp.

Red_Army

meh buy a b20 bottom end. build it. find a b16 head. vtec kit. tear shiz up. realiable, fast, pretty fuel efficient.

theres a thread on here that'll show you exactly how to do it.

still be as much or cheaper then buying a b16a whole.

i own a b16a and i like it but 500 bucks for 30+tq and probably 10-25hp. i'll take the time to work on a b20 side project block.