Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella?
08-13-2004, 12:24 PM
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Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella?
I just bought a hella supertone and I have a momo steering wheel with a quick realease and i was wondering how to connect it to the steering wheel?
I ran a new wire from the new horns with the relay supplied but cant figure out how to connect the ground behind the wheel
I have searched and all of the topics dont help
Thanks
-Brian
I ran a new wire from the new horns with the relay supplied but cant figure out how to connect the ground behind the wheel
I have searched and all of the topics dont help
Thanks
-Brian
08-13-2004, 12:30 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
back from the dead. follow this inorder and you will have no problems.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=273474 this should be a sticky but i guess its not that important. since its illegal...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=273474 this should be a sticky but i guess its not that important. since its illegal...
08-13-2004, 01:25 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
Those directions are for when you use the stock wires
I used new wires im going to draw up a ghetto *** diagram of how i wired it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">back from the dead. follow this inorder and you will have no problems.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=273474 this should be a sticky but i guess its not that important. since its illegal...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I used new wires im going to draw up a ghetto *** diagram of how i wired it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">back from the dead. follow this inorder and you will have no problems.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=273474 this should be a sticky but i guess its not that important. since its illegal...</TD></TR></TABLE>
08-13-2004, 01:39 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
I spliced the wire into the one that comes with the hub and connected to the other wire that comes with the quick realease with the little spring and did nothing
can anyone please help?
thanks
sorry for the crappy pic
08-13-2004, 02:09 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I spliced the wire into the one that comes with the hub and connected to the other wire that comes with the quick realease with the little spring and did nothing
can anyone please help?
thanks
sorry for the crappy pic </TD></TR></TABLE>
damn thats confusing me... why didnt you just use the oem wires on the horn, run two wires for the second horn then then connect the steering wheel as the post i put above... you dont need the second relay for the horns to work because its already relayed??
I spliced the wire into the one that comes with the hub and connected to the other wire that comes with the quick realease with the little spring and did nothing
can anyone please help?
thanks
sorry for the crappy pic
</TD></TR></TABLE>damn thats confusing me... why didnt you just use the oem wires on the horn, run two wires for the second horn then then connect the steering wheel as the post i put above... you dont need the second relay for the horns to work because its already relayed??
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08-13-2004, 02:31 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
well i figured if i did it this way it would be easyier
does anyone know how to make this way work
does anyone know how to make this way work
08-13-2004, 03:07 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is your oem horn wire one or two?
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im not sure were you mean?
Under the dash?
or under the hood?
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im not sure were you mean?
Under the dash?
or under the hood?
08-13-2004, 03:18 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im not sure were you mean?
Under the dash?
or under the hood?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the wire/s at the actual horn itself << your oem horn. if its one wire you can ground it as the photos above. but if you have two wires you have to wire a negative power source to it. not as a negative ground. so one wire will be the main + and the sec.wire will be the main - wire. see if that works
im not sure were you mean?
Under the dash?
or under the hood?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the wire/s at the actual horn itself << your oem horn. if its one wire you can ground it as the photos above. but if you have two wires you have to wire a negative power source to it. not as a negative ground. so one wire will be the main + and the sec.wire will be the main - wire. see if that works
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
i have two wires but im not sure I understand how to wire it like you said
08-13-2004, 04:16 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
im sure theres a simple solution i just dont know how to connect the wire inside the car
all of the wiring under the hood is perfect
all of the wiring under the hood is perfect
08-13-2004, 04:22 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
well the problem is under the hood at the relay the way you have it set up you have no - power going to you horn button. and you have the horns grounded instead of having - power going to them. the 85 should be your - power that goes to the 86 plug that goes to the horn button .
but like i said you dont need that relay it just makes things harder to show and understand. i would scrap what you have done and start it over and wire it up the oem way.the easy way. either way you are going to have a hard time getting it to ground at the horn button unless you use the shoe horn. or some other method. good luck.
but like i said you dont need that relay it just makes things harder to show and understand. i would scrap what you have done and start it over and wire it up the oem way.the easy way. either way you are going to have a hard time getting it to ground at the horn button unless you use the shoe horn. or some other method. good luck.
08-13-2004, 04:23 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
i have the same two hellas, and put on a mugen wheel without any problems the first time. but its using the oem wires and no relay.
08-13-2004, 04:25 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
The only reason why its wired like this is cause this is the way hella says to do it
in the directions
so what your saying is if i switch those connections i still will need some way to ground it in the steering column?
thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the problem is under the hood at the relay the way you have it set up you have no - power going to you horn button. and you have the horns grounded instead of having - power going to them. the 85 should be your - power that goes to the 86 plug that goes to the horn button .
but like i said you dont need that relay it just makes things harder to show and understand. i would scrap what you have done and start it over and wire it up the oem way.the easy way. either way you are going to have a hard time getting it to ground at the horn button unless you use the shoe horn. or some other method. good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>
in the directions
so what your saying is if i switch those connections i still will need some way to ground it in the steering column?
thanks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the problem is under the hood at the relay the way you have it set up you have no - power going to you horn button. and you have the horns grounded instead of having - power going to them. the 85 should be your - power that goes to the 86 plug that goes to the horn button .
but like i said you dont need that relay it just makes things harder to show and understand. i would scrap what you have done and start it over and wire it up the oem way.the easy way. either way you are going to have a hard time getting it to ground at the horn button unless you use the shoe horn. or some other method. good luck.
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the same two hellas, and put on a mugen wheel without any problems the first time. but its using the oem wires and no relay. </TD></TR></TABLE>
but were you using a quick release?
I think that is my major problem
but were you using a quick release?
I think that is my major problem
08-13-2004, 04:28 PM
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only reason why its wired like this is cause this is the way hella says to do it
in the directions
so what your saying is if i switch those connections i still will need some way to ground it in the steering column?
thanks
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yea i first used the directions and found them not to work with hondas because we are on a switched negative as opposed to switched + as most hella applications. and yes you will still have to have some way to switch the horn on by grounding the button and the steering column... hence the use of the shoe horn is your only way.
in the directions
so what your saying is if i switch those connections i still will need some way to ground it in the steering column?
thanks
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yea i first used the directions and found them not to work with hondas because we are on a switched negative as opposed to switched + as most hella applications. and yes you will still have to have some way to switch the horn on by grounding the button and the steering column... hence the use of the shoe horn is your only way.
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
but were you using a quick release?
I think that is my major problem</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i had a jdm quick release and a mugen steering wheel. and my air bag srs light did not stay on either.
but were you using a quick release?
I think that is my major problem</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i had a jdm quick release and a mugen steering wheel. and my air bag srs light did not stay on either.
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
well i apprecaite your help and it looks like im gonna have to get a show horn
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i apprecaite your help and it looks like im gonna have to get a show horn </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea if you follow the thread i posted you will have no problem with anything, and if you do just pm me and i can walk you through it... i forget off hand how i disabled the srs, but ill remember once i look through some notes when you get to that point..
i know its hard to start something then having to do thing over a different way. but it really is easier..
</TD></TR></TABLE>yea if you follow the thread i posted you will have no problem with anything, and if you do just pm me and i can walk you through it... i forget off hand how i disabled the srs, but ill remember once i look through some notes when you get to that point..
i know its hard to start something then having to do thing over a different way. but it really is easier..
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (vtec69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were did you get your horse shoe thingy?</TD></TR></TABLE>
its best to get it from the dealership,,, its like 5-6 bucks
its best to get it from the dealership,,, its like 5-6 bucks
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Re: Anyone rewire horn completely with Momo and Hella? (cxSHOE)
Yeah it sucks casue i spent most of today making sure all of the wires were nice and neat now I have to rip it all out and bascially do it all over again 
but thanks for the help
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yea if you follow the thread i posted you will have no problem with anything, and if you do just pm me and i can walk you through it... i forget off hand how i disabled the srs, but ill remember once i look through some notes when you get to that point..
i know its hard to start something then having to do thing over a different way. but it really is easier..</TD></TR></TABLE>
but thanks for the help
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yea if you follow the thread i posted you will have no problem with anything, and if you do just pm me and i can walk you through it... i forget off hand how i disabled the srs, but ill remember once i look through some notes when you get to that point..
i know its hard to start something then having to do thing over a different way. but it really is easier..</TD></TR></TABLE>