Am i being scammes??????????????????????
05-07-2004, 06:11 PM
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Am i being scammed??????????????????????
went to an alarm shop today called "AL and EDS" , its a pretty big company.
I just ordered a detachable steering wheel from someone on Honda Tech.
I also ordered the "Autolock X" , a hi-tech lock for the pedals, which just came out.
Now i want 2 kill switches and and a not too pricey alarm ($200-300 range, no more)
So the guy at the shop has some kinda "know it all attitude, kinda like hes right now matter what you say" For example ...heres the convo..
Him : So what brings you here today?
Me : Do you guys do kill switches
Him: Sure
Me: Yea, im thinking of getting two
**he interrupts*
Him: NO. THeres no point in getting two, its the same with just one, my advice is the Clifford 450 alarm whcih comes with the switch too, (then he goes on talking about it, its $650 installed)
**5 minutes later*
Me:Well thats over my budget anything in the 300-400 range you recommend?
Him: Not annything that will keep your car from getting stolen
Me: uhhhhh.....(long pause)...so how about the kill switches . why is 2 not a good idea
Him: **kinda beats around the bush , then gets back to the Clifford alrarm**
Basically, its like the only thing he wants to sell...wtf?
Then i asked him how much it would cost to find out whats wrong with my reciever..since i was dumb enoguh to let my freind try to install my new amps, now the reciver only works in the morning, when the car is cold, the rest of the day it turns on, but the speakers wont work ,weird
Him: Its 65 dollars an hour to fix!
WTF!!! Isnt that more than what a dam doctor makes???
Me: So, what if you cant find out what the problem is, do i still have to pay
Him: No. Usually why find out the problem within an hour or so.
Me: Well , what if it takes more than an hour, i dont wanna end up paying 199+ dolalrs to fix a dam reciever. Ill pay 60-80 dollars just to fix my stereo, no more.
Ok, im going to look around. *then i leave*
oh yeah , and also , when i mentioned the detachable steering wheel , he shook his head, as if they sucked..wtf?
I just ordered a detachable steering wheel from someone on Honda Tech.
I also ordered the "Autolock X" , a hi-tech lock for the pedals, which just came out.
Now i want 2 kill switches and and a not too pricey alarm ($200-300 range, no more)
So the guy at the shop has some kinda "know it all attitude, kinda like hes right now matter what you say" For example ...heres the convo..
Him : So what brings you here today?
Me : Do you guys do kill switches
Him: Sure
Me: Yea, im thinking of getting two
**he interrupts*
Him: NO. THeres no point in getting two, its the same with just one, my advice is the Clifford 450 alarm whcih comes with the switch too, (then he goes on talking about it, its $650 installed)
**5 minutes later*
Me:Well thats over my budget anything in the 300-400 range you recommend?
Him: Not annything that will keep your car from getting stolen
Me: uhhhhh.....(long pause)...so how about the kill switches . why is 2 not a good idea
Him: **kinda beats around the bush , then gets back to the Clifford alrarm**
Basically, its like the only thing he wants to sell...wtf?
Then i asked him how much it would cost to find out whats wrong with my reciever..since i was dumb enoguh to let my freind try to install my new amps, now the reciver only works in the morning, when the car is cold, the rest of the day it turns on, but the speakers wont work ,weird
Him: Its 65 dollars an hour to fix!
WTF!!! Isnt that more than what a dam doctor makes???
Me: So, what if you cant find out what the problem is, do i still have to pay
Him: No. Usually why find out the problem within an hour or so.
Me: Well , what if it takes more than an hour, i dont wanna end up paying 199+ dolalrs to fix a dam reciever. Ill pay 60-80 dollars just to fix my stereo, no more.
Ok, im going to look around. *then i leave*
oh yeah , and also , when i mentioned the detachable steering wheel , he shook his head, as if they sucked..wtf?
05-07-2004, 06:17 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (MikeHock)
which al and eds was this? some of the guys are cool and some are just ******** who think they know everything.
05-07-2004, 06:19 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (MikeHock)
Al and Eds.... 
ahahah
65 and hour is what most shops charge for repairs....but for alarms...eh
id get a ravelco for 300 installed and call it a day.
ahahah
65 and hour is what most shops charge for repairs....but for alarms...eh
id get a ravelco for 300 installed and call it a day.
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (MikeHock)
hmmm...you usually know within 30 secs. to 1 min. if you like the "feel" of a shop, etc. If you don't like the shop, don't do business there and if you want 2 kill switches you can buy them seperately and then just pay someone you feel comfortable with for the install. I wasn't really sure what your question was.
05-07-2004, 06:30 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (MikeHock)
buddy just told me. Alarms are worthless..thats why i dont wanna spend too much on an alarm..
In order for a thief to steal my caar..
he needs my exact steering wheel , no other can fit into my hub, each one is different
Then he needs to find kill switch under the dash and then one under the hood (good luck w\ that)
Then he needs to disable the alarm ( easiest part)
Then he needs to go throught he clutch lock
In order for a thief to steal my caar..
he needs my exact steering wheel , no other can fit into my hub, each one is different
Then he needs to find kill switch under the dash and then one under the hood (good luck w\ that)
Then he needs to disable the alarm ( easiest part)
Then he needs to go throught he clutch lock
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05-07-2004, 06:30 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (MikeHock)
AS for my speakers/reciever
When my freind tried to install the subs, all speakers in the car went blank. Now the speakers only work when the car is cold in the morning, but once i turn the car off once, bye bye noise...until the next monring. My subs arent even connected right now.
When my freind tried to install the subs, all speakers in the car went blank. Now the speakers only work when the car is cold in the morning, but once i turn the car off once, bye bye noise...until the next monring. My subs arent even connected right now.
05-07-2004, 06:31 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (JD95hatch)
yea..65 an hour sounds reasonable for an alarm man, but hes chargin that just to fix me reciever, not for the alarm
05-07-2004, 06:35 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (MikeHock)
i bet i know where your kill switches are going to be.. under your hood and under the dash. real smart posting where you are going to put them, theives could read this also.
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Peace of mind ? professional ? professional kill switch installer ?
dude, there's a wire, you cut it, you attach a switch to it so it cut the power and you hide it somewhere. in my old hatch, I put one underneath the back seat, I sorta had to pull it up and it was against the wall, plus it was right next to the full pump.
and why would you hide a switch under your hood ? are you seriously going to to pop you hood everytime you want to start/leave your car ?
here's how I did mine, great How to: http://www.courtlukens.com/cutoff_switch.htm
it's fun to do ****, plus NO ONE will know where it is. you trust those stupid kids working at that place ? they have all your info, so they know where you live and they know how to get around your **** cause they installed it.
Modified by Daniel_san at 11:13 PM 5/7/2004
dude, there's a wire, you cut it, you attach a switch to it so it cut the power and you hide it somewhere. in my old hatch, I put one underneath the back seat, I sorta had to pull it up and it was against the wall, plus it was right next to the full pump.
and why would you hide a switch under your hood ? are you seriously going to to pop you hood everytime you want to start/leave your car ?
here's how I did mine, great How to: http://www.courtlukens.com/cutoff_switch.htm
it's fun to do ****, plus NO ONE will know where it is. you trust those stupid kids working at that place ? they have all your info, so they know where you live and they know how to get around your **** cause they installed it.
Modified by Daniel_san at 11:13 PM 5/7/2004
05-07-2004, 07:15 PM
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There u go. Maybe now this guy will do it himself LOL
There u go. Maybe now this guy will do it himself LOL
05-07-2004, 07:26 PM
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Holy ****! Thanks for the link man, maybe i will try it myself.
oh...the reason why i want a kil switch under the hood..is so i can ONLY USE IT when i go to really ghetto places...id rather lose 30 seconds popping the hood, then losing my car...i wont be using it all the time though..only ghetto places
oh...the reason why i want a kil switch under the hood..is so i can ONLY USE IT when i go to really ghetto places...id rather lose 30 seconds popping the hood, then losing my car...i wont be using it all the time though..only ghetto places
05-07-2004, 07:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delLudeVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm car doesnt start, follow fuel pump power wire until i find splice and follow extended wire. Done</TD></TR></TABLE>
No offence, but **** you! Thats not something you want to post b/c of thieves who might be reading this. I know its common sense, but still you dont want to post that. After i read your quote again, makes me think you were once a thief.....hummmmmmm?!?!?!
No offence, but **** you! Thats not something you want to post b/c of thieves who might be reading this. I know its common sense, but still you dont want to post that. After i read your quote again, makes me think you were once a thief.....hummmmmmm?!?!?!
05-07-2004, 07:53 PM
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No offence, but **** you! Thats not something you want to post b/c of thieves who might be reading this. I know its common sense, but still you dont want to post that. After i read your quote again, makes me think you were once a thief.....hummmmmmm?!?!?!</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTF?
No offence, but **** you! Thats not something you want to post b/c of thieves who might be reading this. I know its common sense, but still you dont want to post that. After i read your quote again, makes me think you were once a thief.....hummmmmmm?!?!?!</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTF?
05-07-2004, 07:55 PM
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WTF?
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OK, the **** you was not needed. Sorry if i pissed you off, but topics like this tend to get to me cause i know what its like to have **** stolen. I just think his quote was a little odd
WTF?
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OK, the **** you was not needed. Sorry if i pissed you off, but topics like this tend to get to me cause i know what its like to have **** stolen. I just think his quote was a little odd
05-07-2004, 07:58 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (MikeHock)
Lol that **** is too much. I bought my alarm from http://www.asianwolf.com for 200 + SH. The alarm I got is a DEI (Directed Electronics Inc) Hornet 554T. They are the same manufacturer of the widely known Viper alarms. We installed it by ourselves and took about 3 hours. Mainly around 1 1/2 to install the wires and 1 1/2 dicking around with the settings and remote start. Asianwolf now has the updated version which is called the Valet 554R w/ turbo timer function for 179. Even if the price is cheaper I never regret getting my alarm/remote start.
YOu can install it yourself and get the wiring codes at http://www.the12volt.com under vehicle information. Goodluck.
BTW: The shops will try to rip you off so better do it just yourself. I tried shopping around locally in the So Cal area and they try to charge me 500 + installation. Screw that!
YOu can install it yourself and get the wiring codes at http://www.the12volt.com under vehicle information. Goodluck.
BTW: The shops will try to rip you off so better do it just yourself. I tried shopping around locally in the So Cal area and they try to charge me 500 + installation. Screw that!
05-07-2004, 08:06 PM
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Re: Am i being scammed?????????????????????? (REDGEAR)
I also installed my alarm myself.. Now thats peace of mind.
If you know how to do it yourself I'd say go for it... If not I'd rather have a friend help me than take it to a "alarm shop."
I dont know about you but I wouldnt trust any of those guys with my car. Just from that attitude you know they are not going to put much effort into getting the job done right. Plus any shop that will install an alarm will put it in the same place and splice into the same wires in the same place. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of the alarm.
But make sure you don't let the friend who "installed" your audio stuff try to install your alarm. Get someone who knows their **** when it comes to electronics, preferably someone older..
Good luck with whatever you decide to do..
If you know how to do it yourself I'd say go for it... If not I'd rather have a friend help me than take it to a "alarm shop."
I dont know about you but I wouldnt trust any of those guys with my car. Just from that attitude you know they are not going to put much effort into getting the job done right. Plus any shop that will install an alarm will put it in the same place and splice into the same wires in the same place. Kinda defeats the whole purpose of the alarm.
But make sure you don't let the friend who "installed" your audio stuff try to install your alarm. Get someone who knows their **** when it comes to electronics, preferably someone older..
Good luck with whatever you decide to do..