Kidnkorner

well the time has come to spend my bank roll on a power plant. and i have narrowed the choices down to 3 applications. if i go the all motor B series it will either be a B18C5, or B16B and im kinda favoring the B16B. if i chosse the turbo D, i am still researching the best motor for the application. these are the only varieties i am considering, so please don't post a reply about some other combination. the vehicle is a 2000 Dx HB.

Snail Tuning

gewt a d16y8 built up and swap it in, and turbo it. i just did a d16z6 in a 99 civic ex with an Fmax turbo kit very nice kit no modding needed and its ran greats 12psi daily so far cause the owner is a 16yr old kid and hes already lost control in it at 8psi. go with the y8 and build and turbo it.

Spade

2000 D16Y8 sleeved and bored to 77mm with forged pistons at 9:1 comp and eagle rods. Crower Turbo cam and valve springs and a Edelbrock Turbo kit.

SOHC_MShue

I would go with turbo D, but if you want a b series I wouldn't go with the b16b. Spend a little extra and get the b18c5 if your going the all motor route.

Hybrid96EK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kikomon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which Sounds better?

All Motor B,
or
Turbo D

I like Turbo D, sounds like a rap singer

Turbo D will own a B series unless the DOHC is built.
A good build on a d series turbo can yield over 450 HP

You can extract over 280 WHP on a stock motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have ran two turbo D series in my hatch and walked them both, HARD. I would not consider my engine to be "built" either. It uses all stock Honda internals and isn't even tuned at this point.

You can either spend your money turboing a d series, and get walked by all motor b series, or you can spend the money on making a nice b series setup. Either setup would be a blast to drive, but in my opinion, I would select the B series NA application hands down.

jdmsiR20

i'm biased, owning a d-series... gonna turbo it soon...

but if i had money, and i could spend it just like that... my ultimate setup would probably be a b-series...

my favorite at the moment is the d-series, factors being cost, price, and money

SASIR2

Go with a b-series swap. Can't go wrong with that extra cam .

CivicSwapper

all-motor B. Thats my opinion. I think it has more braggin rights if built up nicely

"Oh yeah, you got a turbo? I dont... lets race!"

2FastxEg

all motor b is the best suggestion i would make,, yuo can have a lot more fun with that. with teh turbo d, you are goign to run into problems, i can guarantee you that.

sledgehammer

No question about it, Bseries swap!

Mike

c1civic

my vote is actaully h, but of your two, i would say b. also depends on how reliable u want. a b with bolt ons is going to me reliable than a stock d on 10pounds

MR BLACK RAG

if your going to build the B series get the C1 why get a C5 if your going to build it waste of money

CivicSwapper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by obd1_jdm_gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your going to build the B series get the C1 why get a C5 if your going to build it waste of money</TD></TR></TABLE>

good point. thats what Im doing. Getting the B18C Long block after the new year and spending about 4-6 months building it up to be nasty

BauleyCivic

I say do all motor B...only because bolt on's in a GSR will yield 13's in an EG hatch...whereas you gotta run 10psi at least on a D in an EG to get 13's...

Imagine that 10psi in an LS or in a GSR motor

If you wanna go faster sooner, do turbo D. But if you want more potential...go with B series and then turbo that down the road.

CivicSwapper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Imagine that 10psi in an LS or in a GSR motor

</TD></TR></TABLE>

that would be oh-so nasty

jdmsiR20

huggy bear: how much money are you willing to invest right now... in a month... for the future?

Dveloped

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by obd1_jdm_gsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your going to build the B series get the C1 why get a C5 if your going to build it waste of money</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice avatar

quik sol

all motor b16b

JDMlyfestyle

thats a tough one. I love the sound of a Nice BOV. but yet again Bseries Vtec sounds great to. Your on ur own man..lo

deeksmooth

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmsiR20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my favorite at the moment is the d-series, factors being cost, price, and money </TD></TR></TABLE>

aren't those the same thing?

deeksmooth

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kikomon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here you go

d16 swap- 700-800 $$$$
Misc parts- 200-400 $$$$
Junkyard Turbo - 400-800$$$ (I have a manifold for a d series)
Hondtata- 300 or something right? Or name your own fuel managment.

B18c5 swap= 5000+ $$$$

for that you can build that d16 and support over 450 WHP</TD></TR></TABLE>

and then when you get MORE power hungry, you have no room to go further.... in the long run, its going to be costly, but a B series build up will be more beneficial.

ng

Search.

Good ol' Screwtape

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would go with turbo D, but if you want a b series I wouldn't go with the b16b. Spend a little extra and get the b18c5 if your going the all motor route.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Holla.

Jason.H.

u could always do a "cheap" b16 swap and get a spoon stroker kit. sky high compression and more reliable than turbo. turbo on n/a motor=prrrooobbbllleeemmms

JDMs1eeper

why get a B18c5 when you can use that money towards a LS turbo... I know a guy that ran 11.88's with stock internals w/ a nicely tuned LS turbo.