NLFer

i was looking into putting some performance parts into my 1995 honda civic ex 1.6L VTEC....i put in a cold air intake so far.....what else should i do to gain more horsepower but not spend to much at a time?

1.5Slowmatic

Full exhaust, cam swap and tune and some weight reduction is about all you can do easily. After that you start getting into tearing apart the motor or turboing.

NLFer

now when you say tune what do you mean by that ?....the ECU?....do you think it's even worth doing these upgrades to a 1.6 vtec?

dillonG_B

ok, i had this question a while back too, well i was basically told the same thing. there is a few small things you can do to increase your speed, ecu chips work nicely, depending on laws in your area hollow out your catalytic converter, louder but more power. cheap electric supercharger, your only talkin $20-$30 and 2-3 psi each.

NLFer

ECU sounds like a good idea but i don't know about the catalytic converter i don't want to mess with emissions.......and WTF is an electric supercharger ??...do you have a link or soemthing ?

elektronsi

on D series your not gonna gain much power without a complete motor build ie...high compression pistons/FI, your much better off with a swap, you can get a complete GSR swap for $2500 from hmotorsonline.com

nix94delsol

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nothing youll notice, and youll probly throw a CEL depending on the Outboard Diagnostic of your car

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puts you in this category

slacks

Search button your d16 vtakk first.

NLFer

has anybody heard of individual Throttle bodies.......is it worth it ?


Modified by NLFer at 7:34 PM 5/12/2008

nix94delsol

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no

IMO if your gunna swap go H series while everything is out

they have the most torque out of the little Vtec 4 cylinders aside from the F22c/F20c

NLFer

okay well thanks guys for all the help i think now i'm just gonna stick with the intake headers exhaust i dead for now until i wanna step my game up.........THANKS AGAIN!


Modified by NLFer at 5:41 PM 5/13/2008

HondamanXxX

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How is a GSR non a direct fit?

mizzoEG

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The OP is talking to nix94delsol about an H22.

When I came into this thread I read "Affordable and not a pain Peformance upgrades". Alot of people in here obviously don't know what that means..

Your best bet for power increase on a VTEC D16Z6 is I/H/E and chipping your ECU. And if you are driving an automatic, then convert it to manual! Also if you are willing enough, then piece together a bolt-on turbo kit, I've seen it done on fairly cheap budgets.

z6hatchboy

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Modified by NLFer at 7:34 PM 5/12/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
They deff. are if you have the money, time, and patience. But you'll have to do your share of searching, because manuf. arent making these for d's like they are the b's. I have a links in my favorites and everyone has fabbed there own set

HondamanXxX

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The OP is talking to nix94delsol about an H22.

When I came into this thread I read "Affordable and not a pain Peformance upgrades". Alot of people in here obviously don't know what that means..

Your best bet for power increase on a VTEC D16Z6 is I/H/E and chipping your ECU. And if you are driving an automatic, then convert it to manual! Also if you are willing enough, then piece together a bolt-on turbo kit, I've seen it done on fairly cheap budgets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you show me where the OP says H22 in any of his posts please? I can't find it anywhere. It's nix94delsol that suggests his opinion on what swap he would do. Shown below.

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no

IMO if your gunna swap go H series while everything is out

they have the most torque out of the little Vtec 4 cylinders aside from the F22c/F20c</TD></TR></TABLE>

nix94delsol

=P you guys can call me nick

and yes i beleive the H22 is the best bang for the buck

HondamanXxX

Alright well back to you Nick. A GSR is not a direct fit?

mizzoEG

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Don't be a smartass, in NLFer's last post he was acutally talking about H22's having needed custom mounts in order for them to swap in, he then later edited it as you can see. &gt;&gt;&gt;

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nix94delsol

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Not without mounts and axles

HondamanXxX

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Don't be a smartass, in NLFer's last post he was acutally talking about H22's having needed custom mounts in order for them to swap in, he then later edited it as you can see. &gt;&gt;&gt;

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So I'm a smartass because I came into this thread after he edited and I'm supposed to be a physic and know what he edited? Alright dude.

I don't even know why your arguing with me. OP asks if a GSR is a direct fit. nix94delsol says no. And I question it. Get lost man.

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Not without mounts and axles</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, thats true. Just need some mounts, axles, shift linkage, ect. But there is no modification needed.

z6hatchboy

True, and the ecu regardless. The op have been referring to a "direct swap" if thats the case then it would be because of not having to hack stuff up like a k20 swap. but still
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To this thread of course, just about.

nix94delsol

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I'm supposed to be a physic and know what he edited? </TD></TR></TABLE>

well duh, get with the program

your not cool unless your psychic

i say we /thread

HondamanXxX

^^ Where'd the hell that come from? lol

wondersparrow

anyone actually try those electric superchargers? i hear they actually cause major air restriction at high rpm. if they actually work, might be amusing.

mizzoEG

Aside from an ECU, axles, and mounts I think any B-Series swap is a direct fit.

An H22 requires custom welding for the passenger-side mount, custom axles, custom work for the shifter and linkages and maybe some other things.



Modified by mizzoEG at 11:12 PM 8/20/2008