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Old 08-09-2011, 11:40 PM
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Hello I recently replaced a d16y7 into a 98 honda civic dx and now it won't start. It ran before and then threw a rod through the block. It's getting spark and fuel but no go. The spark plugs smell like gas. I havn't checked compression yet but will in the a.m. When it cranked the first time it sounded normal and almost started then it started to sound like if there are no spark plugs in it kinda like a compression test. Any help is much appreciated Thank you. No cel either.
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Could a faulty cps be the cause of this?
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What color is spark at the plugs?

Is the firing order correct?

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Thank you but yes firing order is correct. Today it did same thing where first crank sounds like it starts briefly but just shuts back off. Then continues to sound as before.
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Just now it started for a second before dying and producing white smoke from the exhaust...any input?
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Ok i'm retarded the power to the starter was loose as well as a ground. Starts right up now only thing it's throwing cel 54...crank fluctuation sensor...will this make it not run right or can i drive it until i get a new one?
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Scratch that i found a great write-up from omahaturbocivic
on how to bypass it and get the signal from the distro:

"I dont remembet the exact details but the concept is pretty simple, when the motor is running the ecu is trying to compare the ckf sensor at the crank(which you no longer have) with ckp sensor from the dizzy which both output the same 12 pulses per crank revolution(or 24 per cam revolution) to make sure your timing belt is alligned correctly. All you need to do is to run the wires from the ckp from the distributor to both the ckp and the ckf and the ecu is happy. I dont have a pinout handy and you may want to search for a good obd2 pinout because the pin layout is a little more confusing on these and the pins I posted were only for obd2a, if you are obd2b it will be different. From what I can remember from that old post for obd2a you take the ckf(the crank sensor you dont have) which is pins 1 and 11(11 should be directly below 1) and cut them a few inches from the ecu, then take the ecu side and tap c1 into c4 but make sure the original c4 is still hooked up. Then tap c11 into c14(c14 is directly below c4) leaving c14 hooked up as well. Now the wires for c4 and c14 should go into pins both c1, c4 and c11,c14 respectively. The wires for c1 and c11 on the harness side stay unhooked as they went to the sensor that is no longer there anyways. Hope that clears it up for ya!"

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Update: after bypass cel 9 started popping up. undid bypass cel 9 went away and cel 54 came back. Now i replaced the ckf sensor with a known working one and still get cel 54 any ideas?
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