jdm_vtec

Here's the scenario, I have a '96 EX coupe, and I'm looking to drops some pounds without spending much on carbon fiber replacement parts, and so far I have about 160 pounds dropped from removing parts. Here's the list

30 lbs - rear seats
30 lbs - passenger seat
35 lbs - sunroof (capped off w/ fiberglass)
15 lbs - floor tar
15 lbs - a/c compressor
10 lbs pwr steering
20 lbs - smaller battery
5 lbs - rear seat belts

Now here's what I don't understand, a '96 DX coupe with everything intact weighs 2300 lbs. where a '96 EX coupe weighs 2500 lbs. How is this possible? Does the sunroof and power windows actually weigh THAT MUCH?

Throwdown

iTrader: (2)

heat shields, the "tar" ..bumper reinforcements...

01_CLtypeS

iTrader: (1)

the Dx has a 1.5 and the Ex a 1.6....maybe more parts?

the bigger motor + sunroof could easily add up to 200lbs...

95ProjectEJ1

iTrader: (5)

I want to see some pics lol

Libertariat

a/c, power steering, sunroof.

/thread.

Base models are listed as base models, not models with options like a/c or p/s.

My dx hatch for instance came with ps and ac. So I'm sure it weighs similar to that of the ex.

jdm_vtec

are you telling me a 1996 DX doesn't come with A/C or power steering? srsly?

jdmztrane

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01_CLtypeS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the Dx has a 1.5 and the Ex a 1.6....maybe more parts?

the bigger motor + sunroof could easily add up to 200lbs...</TD></TR></TABLE>


A 96-98 Civic DX doesn't have a 1.5 liter engine. It is in fact a D16Y7. A 1.6 liter, single overhead cam, non-vtec engine. There is virtually no weight difference in the engines so thats definitely not it.


I would go with what ek forever guy said. A/C, PS, and a sunroof. Those are probably about it. Other than that a DX is the exact same. Oh, and there are slightly bigger brakes on the EX as well as 2 sway bars, where as the DX has no sway bars. That could also be the weight difference.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you telling me a 1996 DX doesn't come with A/C or power steering? srsly?</TD></TR></TABLE>

These were both dealer options, so the weren't installed at the factory. Thus not adding their weights to the vehicles listed weight.

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you telling me a 1996 DX doesn't come with A/C or power steering? srsly?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What else would make it a base model?

It certainly didn't come with all the same amenities and somehow weigh less.

a/c and ps are heavy together when you include fluid also.

5_Lug_B

I believe it mainly to be the Power Doors, Cruise control, Sun Roof, More plush seats, Power steering, Larger Rotors and the sway bars. When my DX coupe was B16A bone stock it would rip on pretty well modded EM1's. You gotta love the light weight coupe

Libertariat

The seats are identical.

jdm_vtec

thanks guys.. I guess i'm on the right track w/ my weight reduction.. I forgot to add the spare tire weight, which puts me close to 200 lbs.

khrisb

ex's have rear disks, right? lol maybe 200lbs of v-taaaaak?

blue gd3

You guys forgot to mention about transmissions. Automatic is slightly heavier than manual. Don't know exactly how much but yeah.

I could be wrong.

hondamark35

dx- dealer optional A/C, ps not standard, power nothing (sunroof, doorlocks, windows), no alarm/keyless entry, no swaybars, i think ex had optional abs, but this wasn't an option on dx. not sure about the last one. 13" steelies don't weigh much believe it or not. 14 weigh more.

if you have the original ex exhaust mani, the 96-98 were cast and the 99-00 were welded tubular. they weigh a little less. i like mine. it's nice!

but i bet the extra 40lbs are in the swaybars and power window motors and pdl actuators.

hondamark35

yeah but i think he's comparing manual to manual.

blue gd3

Oh well.

Maybe the driver himself/herself is 200 pounds heavier than what an average person weighs. IDK.

Neptronix

oh really.. sunroof is seriously 35lbs?
I've been seriously thinking about removing mine.
Typically i just go tweaker style and tear things out but i will be selling this car in a year
or two..

Does the sunroof removal f it up? as in.. could you ever put it back in?

jdm_vtec

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Neptronix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh really.. sunroof is seriously 35lbs?
I've been seriously thinking about removing mine.
Typically i just go tweaker style and tear things out but i will be selling this car in a year
or two..

Does the sunroof removal f it up? as in.. could you ever put it back in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope, it bolts in.. you could probably just remove the glass and do lexan or something.. it wouldn't be worth the 10 or 15 pounds saved IMO

jdmztrane

Composites Fab was making a sunroof plug... but they went outta business. It was a full CF piece that plugged up the hole for the sunroof.

Neptronix

on the first post you said it was 35lb.. heaviest thing on your list.
Maybe i should just forget the idea.

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's the scenario, I have a '96 EX coupe, and I'm looking to drops some pounds without spending much on carbon fiber replacement parts, and so far I have about 160 pounds dropped from removing parts. Here's the list

30 lbs - rear seats
30 lbs - passenger seat
35 lbs - sunroof (capped off w/ fiberglass)
15 lbs - floor tar
15 lbs - a/c compressor
10 lbs pwr steering
20 lbs - smaller battery
5 lbs - rear seat belts

Now here's what I don't understand, a '96 DX coupe with everything intact weighs 2300 lbs. where a '96 EX coupe weighs 2500 lbs. How is this possible? Does the sunroof and power windows actually weigh THAT MUCH?</TD></TR></TABLE>
All the differences here:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2055230
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01_CLtypeS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the Dx has a 1.5 and the Ex a 1.6....maybe more parts?

the bigger motor + sunroof could easily add up to 200lbs...</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, not for '96-'00. The DX had the D16Y7 while the EX had the D16Y8.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you telling me a 1996 DX doesn't come with A/C or power steering? srsly?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's not standard.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmztrane &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would go with what ek forever guy said. A/C, PS, and a sunroof. Those are probably about it. Other than that a DX is the exact same. Oh, and there are slightly bigger brakes on the EX as well as 2 sway bars, where as the DX has no sway bars. That could also be the weight difference.

These were both dealer options, so the weren't installed at the factory. Thus not adding their weights to the vehicles listed weight.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A/C and power steering were in fact factory options. The only dealer options I can think of for 6th gen Civics are leather seats, painted pinstripes and perhaps tint.

Dealer options are not things that you could just go down to the dealership and order now.

Though CX and DXes and such didn't come standard with A/C or power steering, the dealership could choose to have their vehicles come with A/C if they wanted to do so. For example, a dealership in Florida might have trouble moving DX coupes without A/C.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khrisb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ex's have rear disks, right? lol maybe 200lbs of v-taaaaak?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, the EX has rear drum.

jdm_vtec

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Neptronix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the first post you said it was 35lb.. heaviest thing on your list.
Maybe i should just forget the idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

35 lbs. is total weight with the sun roof motor and all.. I was saying you COULD just replace the GLASS with lexan and drop 15


Modified by jdm_vtec at 9:18 PM 9/10/2007

NOFX

Parts the EX coupe has but the DX coupe does not:

- Moonroof.
- Painted sidemoldings, side mirrors and license plate granish (no added weight though).
- Power exterior mirrors.
- Power windows.
- Power locks.
- Cruise control.
- Tachometer.
- Larger dome light.
- 10.3" front brake rotors (DX has 9.5").
- 22mm front sway bar.
- Map light ('98-'00 only).

- Standard air conditioning (optional on DX).
- Standard power steering (optional on DX).
- Standard keyless entry system (optional on DX).
- Standard center console armrest (optional on DX).

- Optional ABS.
- Optional moonroof visor.


Modified by NOFX at 7:02 AM 9/11/2007

NOFX

Oh, and the weights I have right here for the DX and EX coupes says the EX is between 145 to 171 pounds heavier than the DX depending on the years.

99fbpem1

how much does cruise control weigh?