hazard_one

i need some help on clarifying things...

what would i need to do the FULL integra brake swap without bending and reflaring the brake lines?

which Brake booster/ m/c's would work and which 40/40 prop valve would work?

hazard_one

oh yeah. would i also need to change the brake booster as well?

litterbox

Without bending lines you need a 15th/16th MC off a 91 EX (not exactly sure if that's the correct chassis.

Bending lines is easy, don't be skurrd. Look into 1'' 98+ Integra MC's.

hazard_one

but wouldnt i have to reflare the lines too or something? seems a lil iffy

litterbox

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hazard_one &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but wouldnt i have to reflare the lines too or something? seems a lil iffy</TD></TR></TABLE>Bending lines is simply slowly bending the lines with your hands. It takes 30seconds.

Your hard brake lines have a fitting on them. The fitting itself screws into the MC. The end of the brake line has a lip on it to keep the fitting from falling off. What you do is cut off that lip, take the old fitting off, slide the new one on and use the 20$ reflare kit to make the new lip on the hard line. Trust me, it's real easy.

Here's a link to show you how to reflare. You'll do a double reflare so look at that section.

http://www.joesfalcon.com/gentip2/gentip2.html

hazard_one

any other tips? someone tells me you can use the stock ebrake cable? and would u need to rebend the lines for an RS brake booster/mc?

1niceSi

Quoted from B18C5-EH2

Okay, for 1992-1995 Civics let me say this:
1992-1993 Civics ALL have smaller rotors thatn the Integra - even the Si hatch and EX coupes in 1993.

1994-1995 EX and 1994 Si ABS have same size rotors, but like DragII said the calipers seem to be smaller on the Civics and they also carry different part numbers. I have proof of this with scans of part numbers from parts catalogs.

With that said, here is what MOST people do to upgrade their brakes to Integra specs - all of the following are not ABSOLUTES, but they make it much easier:

Get the entire front spindles from any 1994-2001 Integra. This should include the spindles, calipers, hangers, rotors, lines, and dust shields.

Simply unbolt the upper and lower balljoints, and the ball joint that connects to the outer tie rod ends, disconnect the lines and swap the spindles. Would be a good idea to have badly rusted rotors turned or replaced, and throw in new brake pads too if possible.

For the rears, try to get the entire rear trailing arms assemblies with the parking brake cables too. Then just swap the entire traling arms and you're pretty much done.

Now, for the optional **** that WILL make a difference in braking and mostly pedal feel:

1994-2001 GS-R, LS, RS, any Integra brake booster. This bolts into any 1992-1995 with ease. BOLTS right in.

***IMPORTANT***

You MUST have an Integra booster in order to run an Integra master cylinder! Although the lines fit perfectly on the Intgegra RS mastercylinder, no Integra master cylinder will bolt up to the CIVIC brake booster. Get the Integra booster and you will have to run an Integra master cylinder too.

Integra RS master cylinder. The base model RS Integra had NO ABS so the lines match up PERFECT with any non-abs Civic - which most of you have. I have done this in my own car and it truly bolts in.

The Integra master cylinder is a 15/16th whgile the Civic non-abs uses a smaller 13/16th master cylinder.

Finally, add the GS-R, LS, RS, etc. proportion valve and you will have completed the package. 1992-1993 Civics will require you to change JUST the bracket over - use the Teg prop valve with the Civic bracket. 1994-1995 Civics can use the Integra bracket.

1-800-962-8922 is the number to Import Auto Salvage. They sell the most complete brake swaps I've see yet. Call and ask for Larry Jr. or Randy Joeb - tell them TOM from Georgia sent you.

hazard_one

sweet

BANNED_ID

I just did mine not too long ago. I used a 2000 integra GSR brake booster and master cynlider(1"). Line bending is so easy that anyone can do it, just go easy on it. In order to fit the huge brake booster, take off the clevis thing and it will go in, I tried dropping my engine and other methods, just take off the clevis and you are good to go.
Good luck with the swap, I tried them on the track last week, awesome brake!!

Do_Ster

don't forget the integra rear brake lines, your gonna need those because they have a banjo fitting

hazard_one

so you didnt need a non-abs mc and bb?

hazard_one

what i dont get is the abs and non abs thing...someone help me out. i found a gsr brake conversion with gsr everything. would i be able to use the prop valve and mc+bb?