95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
03-05-2014, 05:46 AM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
Get the tool (multimeter) needed to diagnose electrical problems. It's costs $4 on sale at HFT. Find a sale coupon at their website.
03-05-2014, 07:35 AM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
03-05-2014, 08:22 AM
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Re: Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
I know this is off topic, but i swapped the alternator belt today and got damn, i was unbolting pulleys and soaking in power steering fluid. Took me an hour and a half from opening the hood to locking the door after a test drive.
But why with the new belt is my Voltage readings more jumpy? 20 year old alternator, but before it wouldn't jump as bad (but no more awful squealing, thank gawd). Just a little, we're talking like .2 volts for stepping on the brakes.
Tension in belt is good.
But why with the new belt is my Voltage readings more jumpy? 20 year old alternator, but before it wouldn't jump as bad (but no more awful squealing, thank gawd). Just a little, we're talking like .2 volts for stepping on the brakes.
Tension in belt is good.
03-05-2014, 08:26 AM
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Re: Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
Okay, so it's been confirmed, driving with the vss plug disconnected yields the same results. No speedo function, and it takes like 3 or 4 minutes for the CEL to come on. I'm having trouble removing the wires from the plug with the plug still connected, so i was thinking perhaps I could cut the plug out, get some 16 ga from autozone and solder it in to extend the old wires, and then tinker with the plug inside where it's warm and easier to work with? It looks like the middle connector (yellow/blue wire) has a lot of blue stuff on it, and it also looks like it got pushed up somehow, like it wasn't seated properly in the plug. I tried reseating it and using more MAP sensor cleaner, and it didn't do anything.
Pls respond.
Pls respond.
I have a feeling this corrosion has spread...........
03-05-2014, 08:12 PM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
okay ronj@ht, i bought a ten dollar multimeter at work, it looks like it's some high tech **** i got here. Could you tell me what i need to be doing? I think it's time we get this ordeal straightened out. I'm tired of CELs, i'm tired of lumpy idles from a shitty limp *** mode, and i'm tired of idking my speed.d
03-05-2014, 08:39 PM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
The VSS connector has 3 wires: Yel/Blu (power), Blk (ground), and Yel/Wht (signal).
Test 1:
Test 1:
- Unplug VSS sensor.
- Turn key to ON(II) (engine off).
- Set multimeter to read DC voltage.
- Measure voltage at the Yel/Blu wire in the connector using (1) the transmission or (2) the Blk wire terminal as ground.
- Post the 2 voltage readings.
03-05-2014, 08:42 PM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
Test 2:
- Unplug VSS sensor.
- Turn key to off.
- Set multimeter to read continuity or Ohms/resistance.
- Measure continuity/Ohms of the Blk wire terminal in the connector to the transmission.
- Is there continuity?
03-05-2014, 08:53 PM
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03-06-2014, 07:55 AM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
The VSS connector has 3 wires: Yel/Blu (power), Blk (ground), and Yel/Wht (signal).
Test 1:
Test 1:
- Unplug VSS sensor.
- Turn key to ON(II) (engine off).
- Set multimeter to read DC voltage.
- Measure voltage at the Yel/Blu wire in the connector using (1) the transmission or (2) the Blk wire terminal as ground.
- Post the 2 voltage readings.
03-06-2014, 08:17 AM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
Resistance test showed 0.07 and slowly decreasing from the connector negative and a ground
03-06-2014, 08:27 AM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
I just read that it's a 5 volt positive at the connector, so i am assuming this is good?
03-06-2014, 05:34 PM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
What is the voltage at the Yel/Wht wire using the Blk wire terminal as ground?
03-06-2014, 07:44 PM
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Whoops, i did the test wrong. I measured 4.67 volts at the yellow blue wire. so thats good, right? I did the outer wires, not the black and middle one. Remember i soldered extension wires that are all the same color, and i didn't bother to look at the old harness because i was recalling from memory. Will do tomorrow. Did test 2 check out okay?
03-07-2014, 07:11 AM
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It has just been confirmed. Voltage readout from power wire to ground wire in the VSS plug is 11.80 Volts. Voltage readout from power wire to body ground wire is 11.80 Volts.
To reiterate, signal wire voltage was at 4.67 volts when grounded to the plug ground and chassis ground.
To reiterate, signal wire voltage was at 4.67 volts when grounded to the plug ground and chassis ground.
03-07-2014, 07:30 AM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
^Indicate wire colors when you describe your test results.
Did you correctly pin the wires to the VSS connector? See diagram I posted where connector is viewed from the terminal side.
Did you correctly pin the wires to the VSS connector? See diagram I posted where connector is viewed from the terminal side.
03-07-2014, 07:46 AM
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03-07-2014, 07:56 AM
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i'm gonna go check one more time to make sure everything is in the right spot.... ugh
03-07-2014, 08:06 AM
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Re: 95 Civic EX 5 speed - Code 17 TWICE? Is this witchcraft?
All checks out. 4.68 V at the yel/white. 11.90 V at yel/blue, and both get the same results when grounded to the battery. Dash voltmeter reads 11.9 with fuel pump primed and all systems go.
Wires are in correct slots now. Still 0 mph.
Wires are in correct slots now. Still 0 mph.