92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
03-15-2009, 07:27 PM
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92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
Well I'm thinking about getting a 5 speed 92-95 EX and I'm sure I will want more power. Nothing crazy, but what is a good motor swap for this car? And what all needs to be changed when you swap in a new motor? Sorry I am new. And I know I can spend alot of money and put in a Toyota Supra motor, I'm talking about something not alot of money but money well spent. I tried searching and didn't find a whole lot. Oh and this is going to be a daily driver.
03-15-2009, 07:41 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
Any B-Series Swap. Minus a few select ones.
A B18A1(LS) swap might do you just fine.
Cheap, reliable, and still torque-y.
If you do any swap aside from Single-Cam motors.
You'll have to change motor mounts, and depending on which swap it is, you might have to do engine computer work.
This is a really vague answer, but anyone else will tell you more if you needed to know.
A B18A1(LS) swap might do you just fine.
Cheap, reliable, and still torque-y.
If you do any swap aside from Single-Cam motors.
You'll have to change motor mounts, and depending on which swap it is, you might have to do engine computer work.
This is a really vague answer, but anyone else will tell you more if you needed to know.
03-15-2009, 07:44 PM
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Goal is as much power as possible N/A while keeping the driveability stock. I don't think it would cost that much that money would be a concern. I wouldn't want to spend more than $4,000 though. As cheap as possible would be nice. Time, hell I don't know, how long does it take? I can pull the motor out of my 5.0 in about half a day and put it back in, in less time.
03-15-2009, 07:47 PM
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Any B-Series Swap. Minus a few select ones.
A B18A1(LS) swap might do you just fine.
Cheap, reliable, and still torque-y.
If you do any swap aside from Single-Cam motors.
You'll have to change motor mounts, and depending on which swap it is, you might have to do engine computer work.
This is a really vague answer, but anyone else will tell you more if you needed to know.
A B18A1(LS) swap might do you just fine.
Cheap, reliable, and still torque-y.
If you do any swap aside from Single-Cam motors.
You'll have to change motor mounts, and depending on which swap it is, you might have to do engine computer work.
This is a really vague answer, but anyone else will tell you more if you needed to know.
03-15-2009, 07:51 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
Goal is as much power as possible N/A while keeping the driveability stock. I don't think it would cost that much that money would be a concern. I wouldn't want to spend more than $4,000 though. As cheap as possible would be nice. Time, hell I don't know, how long does it take? I can pull the motor out of my 5.0 in about half a day and put it back in, in less time.
03-15-2009, 08:02 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
GSR is the B18C1 about 170 at the crank, its from the Integra GSR. He's saying use the B16 tranny, but any B-series tranny will bolt up. Tranny can be bought from basically the same places you buy the motors... Shops, craigslist, hmotors online, etc.
i/h/e is generally CAI, Header, and Exhaust
B-Series in an EG is a pretty drop in affair, but there are a few things you will run in to for things like the AC bracket and stuff, there are plenty of tutorials, you will need the ECU, axles, b-series mounts, tranny, motor, b-series header, adapter for exhaust, etc I'm sure I'm missing a few things.
i/h/e is generally CAI, Header, and Exhaust
B-Series in an EG is a pretty drop in affair, but there are a few things you will run in to for things like the AC bracket and stuff, there are plenty of tutorials, you will need the ECU, axles, b-series mounts, tranny, motor, b-series header, adapter for exhaust, etc I'm sure I'm missing a few things.
03-15-2009, 08:17 PM
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I test drove a 06 RSX 5 speed and I liked it. The power it had I could be happy with. I was thinking about getting a Type-S but I just don't want a $18,000 4 cylinder. No offense guys... So how would a 92-95 EX with a B18 do against a 06 RSX or Type-S in a race?
03-15-2009, 10:22 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
b swap it. best bang for the buck. plus you can build on it later. start out with an LS on a b16 trans, vtec it later (properly) and go from there. you'll have a blasty blast.
03-15-2009, 11:18 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
06 RSX Base model is ~2800 lbs and the K20A3 good for about 160 at the crank plus or minus.
06 RSX Type-S model is also about 2800 lbs and the K20Z1 is about 210 at the crank (according to wikipedia).
I would imagine the GSR swapped EJ1 would win against both, but of course there are other factors... Disclaimer: I've never driven an RSX or seen one race. I'm basing that guess on what I have pulled from wikipedia, it also shows the specs on those motors to have similar red lines and peak hp rpms...
HMotors is sometimes a little bit more pricey, but this is everything you need:
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30009
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03-16-2009, 01:26 AM
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03-16-2009, 05:27 AM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
The coupe weighs a little more than the Si Hatch.
I suppose I'm in a unique position here as I have an '07 Si (which weighs about as much as an RSX Type S) and the '94 Si hatch. I'd like to weigh my '07 Si so I can do some direct comparions, but they both seem to be about the same in accelleration.
I'm sure I'll get some hatin' for saying this but the B16 would never be my choice. You can pick up JDM B18C's for around $2000. As for wiring harnesses, beyond buying a new one, it's not that big a deal to modify your stock civic's wiring to plug into the new engine. I just did one about a year ago with great success.
My reason for not liking the B16 is the lack of torque. I had a chance to swap a B18C into my cousin's EM and he was stunned by how much easier it was to drive the car with the extra torque...and we didn't even set up the IAB!
One thing that needs to be addressed on the B18A is that there is no temp sensor in the thermostat housing. You'd need to get a thermostat housing that has the sensor as this temp sensor turns on the cooling fan.
Anyway, my $.02 worth.
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03-16-2009, 02:33 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
EJ1 is about 2100 lbs w/ a B18C1 should put down about 170 at the crank plus or minus.
06 RSX Base model is ~2800 lbs and the K20A3 good for about 160 at the crank plus or minus.
06 RSX Type-S model is also about 2800 lbs and the K20Z1 is about 210 at the crank (according to wikipedia).
I would imagine the GSR swapped EJ1 would win against both, but of course there are other factors... Disclaimer: I've never driven an RSX or seen one race. I'm basing that guess on what I have pulled from wikipedia, it also shows the specs on those motors to have similar red lines and peak hp rpms...
HMotors is sometimes a little bit more pricey, but this is everything you need:
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30009
06 RSX Base model is ~2800 lbs and the K20A3 good for about 160 at the crank plus or minus.
06 RSX Type-S model is also about 2800 lbs and the K20Z1 is about 210 at the crank (according to wikipedia).
I would imagine the GSR swapped EJ1 would win against both, but of course there are other factors... Disclaimer: I've never driven an RSX or seen one race. I'm basing that guess on what I have pulled from wikipedia, it also shows the specs on those motors to have similar red lines and peak hp rpms...
HMotors is sometimes a little bit more pricey, but this is everything you need:
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30009
03-16-2009, 02:45 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
I rarely bother with these types of threads, but i'll post in this one. Given the chassis, amount of money the OP wants to spend and drivabilty is a concern. I don't think you could possibly go wrong with a GS-R swap.
It:
A. Should fit into the budget, although it wont leave a whole lot left over.
B. Is a about as easy a swap as it gets. 100% bolt in affair.
C. Because its an EX its already wired for vtec, meaning that only a few connectors need to be cut and lengthed, and the IAB wiring needs to be added (if you don't live in a state with emissions you can simply plug the purge solenoid connector into the IAB solenoid and move pin A20 to A17 at the ECU)
When its all said and done you'll have something that to the untrained eye looks bone stock. And something you can easily buy parts for.
It:
A. Should fit into the budget, although it wont leave a whole lot left over.
B. Is a about as easy a swap as it gets. 100% bolt in affair.
C. Because its an EX its already wired for vtec, meaning that only a few connectors need to be cut and lengthed, and the IAB wiring needs to be added (if you don't live in a state with emissions you can simply plug the purge solenoid connector into the IAB solenoid and move pin A20 to A17 at the ECU)
When its all said and done you'll have something that to the untrained eye looks bone stock. And something you can easily buy parts for.
03-16-2009, 03:15 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
I rarely bother with these types of threads, but i'll post in this one. Given the chassis, amount of money the OP wants to spend and drivabilty is a concern. I don't think you could possibly go wrong with a GS-R swap.
It:
A. Should fit into the budget, although it wont leave a whole lot left over.
B. Is a about as easy a swap as it gets. 100% bolt in affair.
C. Because its an EX its already wired for vtec, meaning that only a few connectors need to be cut and lengthed, and the IAB wiring needs to be added (if you don't live in a state with emissions you can simply plug the purge solenoid connector into the IAB solenoid and move pin A20 to A17 at the ECU)
When its all said and done you'll have something that to the untrained eye looks bone stock. And something you can easily buy parts for.
It:
A. Should fit into the budget, although it wont leave a whole lot left over.
B. Is a about as easy a swap as it gets. 100% bolt in affair.
C. Because its an EX its already wired for vtec, meaning that only a few connectors need to be cut and lengthed, and the IAB wiring needs to be added (if you don't live in a state with emissions you can simply plug the purge solenoid connector into the IAB solenoid and move pin A20 to A17 at the ECU)
When its all said and done you'll have something that to the untrained eye looks bone stock. And something you can easily buy parts for.
The wiring advice is good as long as you pick up a GSR engine harness. I wasn't able to locate an engine harness for the last swap that I did for a friend of mine. I used the stock D16z6 harness. The only harness modification had to do with lengthening the O2 sensor wiring and then adding the IAB wiring...which is one wire to the ecu and one wire to ground. Beyond that, everything else plugged in nicely.
-Alex
03-16-2009, 03:51 PM
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Re: 92-95 Civic EX coupe engine swap?
ahh that explains why iv been having that problem n to think i was about to make a post about it what kinda them housing would one have to buy to get rid of this problem