HUBB

i have these tires currently and im having issues with rubbing....my only option is to get smaller tires cus ive raised car to where it looks bad, rolled fenders, and i want to keep camber kits. if i sell tires what size and company tire should i replace them with. thanx

tonyxcom

Its probably your offset on your wheels.

What wheels are you using and what are the offset?

I have the same size on my EK and on 38offset rims, they only rubbed in the back, but I shaved the fender and it fixed that. If I had 40-45 offset rims they probably wouldn't have rubbed at all.

HUBB

i believe im running a 45 offset i am going to sell my azenis and get some 195/50.15....i missed the auto x season and currently commute to school/work so the azenis were a waste anyways .... what band and size tire should i swap in...195/50R/15 yokahama avs es100?? thamx

Resident Evo

what rims do you have? I have the avs es 100 in the size of 195/50 for my Si rims. They handle pretty well on hard turning/cornering

B_CRUZ!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HUBB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have these tires currently and im having issues with rubbing....my only option is to get smaller tires cus ive raised car to where it looks bad, rolled fenders, and i want to keep camber kits. if i sell tires what size and company tire should i replace them with. thanx </TD></TR></TABLE>I could of swore I told you they were too big before. You didn't listen. I had the same tires on the same wheels and got rubbage on the rear. roll the inner fender lip or get 195/50 or 55's.

also like I said before, you can run any other 205/50's and not rub because the azenis are actually wider.

SkyeC

well if you're trying to be slammed, run 0 camber, and expected them not to rub... that's your mistake right there...

Civic_95_Si

Mine don't rub but they touch when turning somtimes. I think its blown struts.

MIZIKETSK

I could be wrong but everyone i've told this to before realized they didn't have to roll there fenders but to look in the rear wheel well and look for the small metal tab right where the qtr panel and rear bumper are attached(i.e. the screw) just bend that bad boy in and your set. you can tell if that's where it's rubbing cuz it'll be shiny. It worked for everyone I told so hopefully it'll work for you. I would get rid of them to slap 195 on there unless you had to.

gamby

You can get 205/50-15 Yoko ES 100's and not have to worry about rubbing.

Azenis are just a huge tire.

goforbroke

Your offset is probably your problem. Also how low do you have your car. I have 205/50/15 azenis on my car and they don't rub and its because of my offset. I have ssr competitions I think the offset is like 42mm, don't quote me on that though. Oh yeah I have a ef also so they might make a considerable difference also. But I think the eg fenders are bigger but....

XxSOHCDriVerxX

i got Rota group N's with 205/50/15's azenis with a four inch drop and i only rub once in a while. mostly on left turns. but it doenst rub bad at all. i had to do a lot of work (roll fender, bens upper fender lining, etc.) but its worth it

HUBB

thanx for the replies...i love the tirs and wish they could work out its just that im commuting mainly right now and i feel like im wasting them away...rather sell them to someone who'll put them to use....next year ill pick a set up but for now ill just roll some 195/50 ES100.....thanx

HUBB

u guys think a 195 / 50 is too small?

Resident Evo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HUBB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u guys think a 195 / 50 is too small? </TD></TR></TABLE>

195 would be small for a 6.5 inch rim. If its a 6 inch width rim, then its no problem.

HUBB

my slips are 15x6.5 ...... 195 too small?

trooper0641

i am looking into new tires as well...should i get the 205/15/50 azenis onto my Si's? My car isnt dropped that low...i'd say a good three fingers on my front fender. Should i get smaller tires? 195/50? what do you guys think? i dont want to have the same problem as most people do...help me make my choice.

fishnfst

They will fit just fine on your slips. I was running the 205/50/15's on some 15x7's and the sidewall is nice and straight. On the 6.5 inch rim the 195/50/15 will have nice straight sidewalls also. Where in the bay are you? Do you want to get rid of your Azenis?? Let me know. Shoot me an IM or E-mail.

fishnfst

Forgot to add that I'm surprised that you are getting rubbing with a 45 offset wheel. I had slight rubbing with some 38's but none with the 40 or 42 offset. My buddies eg with 2001 ex wheels and the 205/50/15 azenis don't rub at all even in hard cornering. I think that they are 45 offset.

NonovUrbizniz

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195 would be small for a 6.5 inch rim. If its a 6 inch width rim, then its no problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF are you talking about... that's actually the CORRECT size for a 15x6.5 and a 15x6.0...

205's are for a 7"+ wide tire... You know what... I'm wrong... Tirerack doesn't recomend going to a 205 till you get to 7.5 inch width... on a 16 inch wheel... 15x7 they still recomend 195.

They "fit" on a 6.5 but are NOT the correct tire... most do it for the extra 10mm of width (first number on tires is width in mm) to "increase" traction/tire performance...

This is NOT what you're doing when you "plus size" tires for rims... it's an OLD OLD "trick" that domestic guys used to do... the put the widest tire they can fit on a rim for more tread width... SACRAFICING sidewall rigidity and handling charactoristics...

The PROPER size tire for a 15x7, 15x6.5 or 15x6.0 wheel is 195/50/15.

HUBB

thanx fellas ---i think im gonna try and sell my great condition azenis...and get some 195/50/15 es100...if anyone interested AIM-XLHUBB....or HT IM me..thanx...peace.

tonyxcom

Those 2 tires aren't even in the same category. So don't expect anywhere near the performance.

And please don't listen to that bozo above, he doesn't have a clue.
The 205/50/15 Azenis works fine on a 6.5 or even 6 inch rim. They work even better on a 7 inch rim, since they are really more of a 215/50/15

Edit: Falken has approved rim widths of 5.5-7.5 for the 205/50/15 Azenis


Modified by tonyXcom at 11:50 PM 10/2/2003

Austin

I, and most of the Type-R guys run the 205-50/15 Azenis on the stock 15X6" rim, I am now using them on a 15X7" rim, they work...I've even seen a 225-50/15 and a 225-45/15 in the stock 15X6" rim. I think that your issue is still within your alignment...what are your alignment specifications from the last time you had the car aligned? Do you have a camber kit for the rear, front, which ones?

Austin

NonovUrbizniz

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tonyXcom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those 2 tires aren't even in the same category. So don't expect anywhere near the performance.

And please don't listen to that bozo above, he doesn't have a clue.
The 205/50/15 Azenis works fine on a 6.5 or even 6 inch rim. They work even better on a 7 inch rim, since they are really more of a 215/50/15

Edit: Falken has approved rim widths of 5.5-7.5 for the 205/50/15 Azenis


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I never said they don't work... I said it's not the text book proper tire for the wheel which it IS NOT...

You CAN use them... you just get worse sidewall rigidity like I said... It's not like the cars going to suck but it's not ideal...

With all the yammering on and on about OEM components or OEM quality you'd think that it would be obvious to use the best matched tire to the rim...

If you think a tire's sidewall is as affective when it's 1" in on either side then where it's designed to be you're dumb... You're "pinching" the beads together to have a 10 MM wider tire... for performance???? that's rediculous... get the proper tire size... I'd put money that they perform better... maybe not at a dragstrip but around corners they'll work better the better matched they are to the wheel.

No they don't look as mad phat as the 205's do but 195's ARE the proper size for a 6.5 wheel...

Try ordering 205's for a 6-6.5" wide wheel from a tire company that cares about safety (IE tirerack or the like) and see if they recomend you plus size your tires for "performance"...

Bar-NONE.... they will ALL recomend if not DEMAND that you go with the CORRECT size tire...

I've already stated... LOTS of people do it and are fine... and it's not a HUGE difference... but it's there... use the RIGHT parts for the application... using 205's on a 6-6.5 is like using a 24mm when you need a 15/16ths... it'll work... it's just not the right tool for the job.

Austin

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Try ordering 205's for a 6-6.5" wide wheel from a tire company that cares about safety (IE tirerack or the like) and see if they recomend you plus size your tires for "performance"...

Bar-NONE.... they will ALL recomend if not DEMAND that you go with the CORRECT size tire...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bullshit. Myself and quite a few other people have ordered the Azenis from Tirerack and were not warned, or told to go with a wider rim. The Azenis is actually so wide it's closer to a 215 width. The stock tires on a type-r are a 195-55/15 on 6 inch rim. So you're telling me that Honda actually put the wrong size tire on the integra??

NonovUrbizniz

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Bullshit. Myself and quite a few other people have ordered the Azenis from Tirerack and were not warned, or told to go with a wider rim. The Azenis is actually so wide it's closer to a 215 width. The stock tires on a type-r are a 195-55/15 on 6 inch rim. So you're telling me that Honda actually put the wrong size tire on the integra??</TD></TR></TABLE>

when did I say that... I never talked about a 195 being too big for a 6... I merely said that a 205 is too big for a 6-6.5...

I'm not going to argue this anymore... go to tirerack.com and check for yourself... enter your year and make and see what size tire they recomend for a 15x6.5... It's 195.

The guy who built my dad's 65 mustang did the SAME thing with his mustang... had me order the tires... when he gave me the numbers I said... You're plus sizing.. it's not a good idea... my dad and him concluded I was a dumb kid and they knew what they were talking about... Now after rolling the fenders... changing the spring rates and 2 sets of rear tires... I'm not soo dumb anymore.

And FYI he (the guy who built my dads mustang) runs the SAME size tire that he put on my dads on his at the track... SO sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't...

Plus sizing is ghetto racing tech.