lol_on_v8s

Well this wat happenedit gets really really cold up here in washington dc n my dumbass just bought a civic well it was about 3degrees outhere about 2 weeks ago and i had water in the cooling system instead of antifreeze my dumbass.. So when i tried to turn the car on not knowin the water inside the motor froze so wen i tried to turn the car over it soundslike sumting broke it cut on but cut right back off i turned it on again it started but it was idlin funny it will rev up to 2000 rpm then down to 1200 and it just kept on doin that since then.. So i drove the car to my job which is like 3 minutes away well more like 4 n it over heated both the hose where cold.. N now i drove it to work again today it did the same thing but the top hose was hot the bottom was cold


heres what i did so far
change the termostat
drained the cooling system and put a 50/50 mix
i tried to replace the water pump but i saw that it was gonna be alot of work taking the left motor mount off taking the valve cover off power steering i just wanted to know if anyone out there have a better way on taking the waterpump out.

Ohh and if this might help i dont have no heat at all since that happened ...

Ill really apriciatte it if anyone could help.. Thanks my fellow honda lovers lol..

AND WHY DOES IT IDLE FUNNY DID IT JUMP TIMING OR SOMETHING..? AND WHAT IS THE TIMING SPECS FOR A 92 CIVIC EX AUTO?

lol_on_v8s

No one knows

lol_on_v8s

Please feel free to give me a free bump after reveing my problem.. Thanks in advance

duggy

Unfortunately, that is the only way to take the water pump out.

Ruben19

i seen alot of water pump fan/shaft break because of the ice.

honda.lioness

x2. The first thing the shop manual says in its procedure for removing the water pump is to remove the timing belt. If you have never done a TB before, it is a big job. If you have the time and have worked on cars a fair amount thus far, you should give it a try.

Maybe be thankful it is cold enough that so far it sounds like your engine has not overheated and so the head gasket (for one) is still okay. :-)

lol_on_v8s

Yeah ive done swaps and change water pumps plenty of times but never while the motor is in the car.. Danmit.. Thanks... Ohh n yeah honda lioness i make sure to turn the car off and wait at a light when it reach 3/4 on dat gueages.. So im pretty sure the head gasket aint blown..

honda.lioness

To clarify: The engine stays in the Honda, but you will end up supporting the oil pan with a sturdy jack and pulling off one of the engine mounts. This is one of the easier steps, it turns out, though I know plenty who manage to dent their oil pans during the job.

Lots of newbie types here ask about steps in changing the timing belt, so there is plenty of help.

Bad sign but you may be okay. I would not drive it anymore until the water pump is replaced. If you must drive it, keep your cabin blower on and cabin heat on high.

lol_on_v8s

N on da timing issue wat do you think it cause it to idle funny..? After that happened..

lol_on_v8s

Hmmm...

BiggieBert

your coolant has a big part in your idle, coolant runs to your IAVC which has a wax ball or somethin like that, the coolant warms the wax and when the wax is melted the car is at normal operating temp. So if your water pump is not pumping b/c the frozen water start-up, coolant is not being sent to your IAVC, hence your F'd idle.

A water pump is not hard to change in-car. if you have any mechanic knowledge it shouldn't take you more than a few hours, maybe set-aside a day, incase you run into more problems.

Search for Helm's Manuals online, they are posted around the site somewhere. It will give step-by-step with pics! what more could you want!

lol_on_v8s

Tahnks man

honda.lioness

x2. Also, some engine sensors require immersion in coolant or they send abnormal signals to the engine computer, messing up idle. You can almost bet the idle problem is due to your coolant problem.

BiggieBert

http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

heres a link for a manual, also i forgot your biggest problem will be getting the pulley bolt off, if you dnt have an impact wrench its almost impossible, but there are people who make a 20& tool that really help, I'll find the s/n of someone who makes and sells them.

BiggieBert

hey lion, he may need your tool, post up a link, I was just about to find your link to post for him but here your are!

honda.lioness

:-)

The tool I made for my 91 and 93 Civics is really for the "serial hobbyist," know what I mean? It took me a long time to figure it out even with a lot of help from a guy at another Honda forum. OTOH, I know a person who had never heard of this tool. I sent him to my site. The next day he snapped back at some joker that it took him around ten minutes to make the homemade tool, and he got the bolt off lickety split using it. Granted I am sure he was someone with serious power tools and experience with all things mechanical.

I really ought to emphasize how happy many are just running down to the local garage and having them bust the pulley bolt loose with one of those big bertha impact wrenches. No pride lost. :-)

lol_on_v8s

can i use a breaker bar? ohh and thanks for the honda manual

honda.lioness

You are going to need the special pulley holding tool, a breaker bar and a length of pipe to put on the end of the breaker bar to get some serious torque to free the pulley bolt.

lol_on_v8s

can i use an over size oil filter remover to hold the pulley in place?

BiggieBert

Maybe one of the ones that uses an adj rubber line to wrap around the filter, just wrap it around were the ps or alt belt goes.
like this:
http://fortunel.manufacturer.globals...rip-Wrench.htm