The Civic Type R!
03-15-2017, 08:49 AM
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Dejoe filed & registered the first patent in the 1920s (for automotive applications) At the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office
https://www.google.com/patents/US1527456
In 1958 Porsche was the 1st automotive company to attempt to mass produce a type of VVT system
Fiat was the 1st to successful integrate it on a mass production scale using a hydraulic solenoid like Honda used in 1989-2001 - (US Patent 3,641,988 )
Alfa Romeo was the 1st company to use VVT in a fuel injected system (1980 Alfa Romeo Spider - US Patent 4,231,330 )
Honda in 1989 was the most successful in its use since it was the only company to use a 2-stage cam lobe system -
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03-16-2017, 09:09 AM
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Drag races..........no longer really interest me although it does take skill to launch properly but the track is where the action is at.
03-16-2017, 09:10 AM
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What you're thinking for Mitsubishi Chanc eEG was the MIVEC system. That was much later after VTEC was perfected.
Dejoe filed & registered the first patent in the 1920s (for automotive applications) At the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office
https://www.google.com/patents/US1527456
In 1958 Porsche was the 1st automotive company to attempt to mass produce a type of VVT system
Fiat was the 1st to successful integrate it on a mass production scale using a hydraulic solenoid like Honda used in 1989-2001 - (US Patent 3,641,988 )
Alfa Romeo was the 1st company to use VVT in a fuel injected system (1980 Alfa Romeo Spider - US Patent 4,231,330 )
Honda in 1989 was the most successful in its use since it was the only company to use a 2-stage cam lobe system -
Dejoe filed & registered the first patent in the 1920s (for automotive applications) At the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office
https://www.google.com/patents/US1527456
In 1958 Porsche was the 1st automotive company to attempt to mass produce a type of VVT system
Fiat was the 1st to successful integrate it on a mass production scale using a hydraulic solenoid like Honda used in 1989-2001 - (US Patent 3,641,988 )
Alfa Romeo was the 1st company to use VVT in a fuel injected system (1980 Alfa Romeo Spider - US Patent 4,231,330 )
Honda in 1989 was the most successful in its use since it was the only company to use a 2-stage cam lobe system -
03-16-2017, 03:36 PM
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If this handles as well as the FK2 2015 Euro CTR I've driven then you will be blown away by this car. The engine in my opinion is less impressive than the handling, but considering the handling that's not a negative comment.
03-17-2017, 01:19 PM
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My impression is the very same. I felt the handling and the braking abilities of the '15 CTR were AMAZING... and the acceleration was merely above average. It was a bit of a tease... the torque poured on early, which gave the impression that things were about to get really good... and then it began to really fall off, almost feeling winded and labored. The new car should have more power. If not, hopefully companies like Hondata and K-Tuner can get a handle on it quick and the power can be bumped up to respectable levels.
04-24-2017, 03:56 PM
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Apologies if already poated:
This New Extreme Honda Civic With Face-Ripping Speed Just Set a Major Speed Record
https://www.thestreet.com/story/1410...o&cm_ven=YAHOO
This New Extreme Honda Civic With Face-Ripping Speed Just Set a Major Speed Record
https://www.thestreet.com/story/1410...o&cm_ven=YAHOO
05-02-2017, 07:58 AM
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Most dealers have already taken deposits for their initial 2017 allocations, even though the dealers don't when when they get the cars or what color they are getting. Cali sucks too, 5k-15k over sticker at most places. 
Lots more useful info at http://www.civicx.com/forums/civic-t...m-10th-gen.10/
Lots more useful info at http://www.civicx.com/forums/civic-t...m-10th-gen.10/
05-04-2017, 07:17 AM
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Most dealers have already taken deposits for their initial 2017 allocations, even though the dealers don't when when they get the cars or what color they are getting. Cali sucks too, 5k-15k over sticker at most places.
Lots more useful info at Civic Type R Forum (10th Gen) | 2016+ Honda Civic Forum (10th Gen) - Type R Forum, Si Forum - CivicX.com
Lots more useful info at Civic Type R Forum (10th Gen) | 2016+ Honda Civic Forum (10th Gen) - Type R Forum, Si Forum - CivicX.com
Road & Track talks about this phenomenon regarding the Focus RS.
The New High-Performance Fords Could Fail the Same Way the Pontiac GTO Did
05-04-2017, 09:08 AM
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I'm already seeing it with the Focus RS. That car was so hyped up that you would think they'd be flying off the showroom floors. To date I've only seen 2 driving around. CTR will definitely be in the same position. Add to the fact the new CTR fails to capture the essence of the Type R heritage. Honda will continue to lose money on every Type R sold.
05-05-2017, 05:43 AM
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I'm already seeing it with the Focus RS. That car was so hyped up that you would think they'd be flying off the showroom floors. To date I've only seen 2 driving around. CTR will definitely be in the same position. Add to the fact the new CTR fails to capture the essence of the Type R heritage. Honda will continue to lose money on every Type R sold.
Focus RS | New Vehicles Ken Grody Ford-Buena Park-Los Angeles, CA Ford Orange County, CA Newport Beach, CA
05-05-2017, 06:54 AM
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Twenty-four (YES) RS' on this one dealers lot!! lol
Focus RS New Vehicles Ken Grody Ford-Buena Park-Los Angeles, CA Ford Orange County, CA Newport Beach, CA
Focus RS New Vehicles Ken Grody Ford-Buena Park-Los Angeles, CA Ford Orange County, CA Newport Beach, CA
05-05-2017, 08:34 AM
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If you're referring to the Focus RS, we've seen a good amount of them here in MI and in a fewer number in IL. It really depended upon the dealership that they got them from. For example, some required a deposit before test driving, while others allowed the salesperson to make the call as to whether or not you could test drive. Markups were minimal, but definitely present in some dealerships. (about $3K-$5K, average). The ones I've seen the most from had no mark-up, and dealer traded but not special ordered.
Most here are Black and Grey, with a peppering of the White. Only a handful of the lighter Blue are being purchased due to additional charge for that specific paint color.
In essence, some dealerships got the message to not get greedy, while others didn't.
As for the Type R, nothing yet in this region.
Most here are Black and Grey, with a peppering of the White. Only a handful of the lighter Blue are being purchased due to additional charge for that specific paint color.
In essence, some dealerships got the message to not get greedy, while others didn't.
As for the Type R, nothing yet in this region.
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05-10-2017, 11:49 AM
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I think we're getting close. I got a call from our dealer today that mine will be here by the "end of the month". Still nothing concrete on color though. Waiting on the sales guy to find out more info and call me back.
05-14-2017, 10:03 PM
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Most dealers have already taken deposits for their initial 2017 allocations, even though the dealers don't when when they get the cars or what color they are getting. Cali sucks too, 5k-15k over sticker at most places.
Lots more useful info at Civic Type R Forum (10th Gen) | 2016+ Honda Civic Forum (10th Gen) - Type R Forum, Si Forum - CivicX.com
Lots more useful info at Civic Type R Forum (10th Gen) | 2016+ Honda Civic Forum (10th Gen) - Type R Forum, Si Forum - CivicX.com
Yeah. I still can't decide between the Type R and the SI. I love the Type R. But my track days are pretty much over...
05-15-2017, 06:14 AM
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Below was taken from another forum, Honda employee looked it up in the iN system. CTR's in transit to the following states. If you live in the below states, start calling!
Arkansas: 2 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/2-7/5
100% Aegean Blue
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Hawaii: 6 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/12-6/24
33% Championship White
33% Crystal Black Pearl
16.6% Rally Red
16.6% Aegean Blue
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Illinois: 37 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/29-6/21
16.22% Championship White
32.43% Crystal Black Pearl
21.62% Aegean Blue
13.51% Rally Red
16.22% Polished Metal Metallic
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Iowa: 8 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/17-7/4
12.5% Championship White
12.5% Aegean Blue
25% Polished Metal Metallic
25% Rally Red
25% Crystal Black Pearl
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Kansas: 4 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/15-6/20
25% Rally Red
75% Crystal Black Pearl
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Kentucky: 1 Total Unit
ETA: ~5/30 approx.
100% Aegean Blue Pearl
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Indiana: 3 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/28-6/08
33.3% Crystal Black Pearl
66.6% Aegean Blue
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Michigan: 3 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/14-7/01
66.6% Rally Red
33.3% Polished Metal Metallic
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Minnesota: 13 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/17-6/25
15.4% Championship White
46.2% Crystal Black Pearl
23.1% Aegean Blue
7.7% Polished Metal Metallic
7.7% Rally Red
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Missouri: 11 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/15-6/20
9.1% Aegean Blue
9.1% Crystal Black Pearl
36.4% Rally Red
18.2% Polished Metal Metallic
27.3% Championship White
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Wisconsin: 19 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/29-6/30
15.8% Championship White
26.3% Crystal Black Pearl
15.8% Polished Metal Metallic
26.3% Aegean Blue
15.8% Rally Red
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Arkansas: 2 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/2-7/5
100% Aegean Blue
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Hawaii: 6 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/12-6/24
33% Championship White
33% Crystal Black Pearl
16.6% Rally Red
16.6% Aegean Blue
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Illinois: 37 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/29-6/21
16.22% Championship White
32.43% Crystal Black Pearl
21.62% Aegean Blue
13.51% Rally Red
16.22% Polished Metal Metallic
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Iowa: 8 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/17-7/4
12.5% Championship White
12.5% Aegean Blue
25% Polished Metal Metallic
25% Rally Red
25% Crystal Black Pearl
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Kansas: 4 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/15-6/20
25% Rally Red
75% Crystal Black Pearl
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Kentucky: 1 Total Unit
ETA: ~5/30 approx.
100% Aegean Blue Pearl
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Indiana: 3 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/28-6/08
33.3% Crystal Black Pearl
66.6% Aegean Blue
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Michigan: 3 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/14-7/01
66.6% Rally Red
33.3% Polished Metal Metallic
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Minnesota: 13 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/17-6/25
15.4% Championship White
46.2% Crystal Black Pearl
23.1% Aegean Blue
7.7% Polished Metal Metallic
7.7% Rally Red
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Missouri: 11 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/15-6/20
9.1% Aegean Blue
9.1% Crystal Black Pearl
36.4% Rally Red
18.2% Polished Metal Metallic
27.3% Championship White
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Wisconsin: 19 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/29-6/30
15.8% Championship White
26.3% Crystal Black Pearl
15.8% Polished Metal Metallic
26.3% Aegean Blue
15.8% Rally Red
05-17-2017, 11:12 AM
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Connecticut: 10 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/31-6/10
- 20% Blue
- 30% Black
- 20% White
- 20% Red
- 10% Grey
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Idaho: 5 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/2-7/14
- 40% Red
- 20% Black
- 20% White
- 20% Grey
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Massachusetts: 29 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/31-6/10
- 27.6% Black
- 20.7% Red
- 20.7% White
- 17.24% Blue
- 13.8% Grey
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Maine: 6 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/1-6/13
- 33.3% Blue
- 33.3% Grey
- 16.7% Black
- 16.7% Red
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Montana: 7 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/7-7/19
- 14.3% Red
- 14.3% White
- 14.3% Blue
- 28.6% Black
- 28.6% Grey
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New Hampshire: 9 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/1-6/17
- 33.3% Black
- 33.3% Grey
- 11.1% Blue
- 22.2% Red
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Ohio: 40 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/30-6/14
- 32.5% Black
- 17.5% Blue
- 20% Grey
- 12.5% White
- 17.5% Red
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North Dakota: 6 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/24-7/27
- 33.3% White
- 16.6% Blue
- 16.6% Red
- 16.6% Grey
- 16.6% Black
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New York: 26 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/28-6/9
- 23.1% Blue
- 26.9% Black
- 15.4% Grey
- 19.2% Red
- 15.4% White
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Oregon: 16 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/9-7/14
- 31.3% Black
- 25% Blue
- 12.5% Grey
- 18.75% White
- 12.5% Red
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Rhode Island: 4 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/31-6/10
- 25% Red
- 25% Black
- 50% Blue
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South Dakota: 2 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/29-8/5
- 50% Blue
- 50% Black
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Vermont: 4 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/4-6/21
- 50% Black
- 25% White
- 25% Blue
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Washington: 27 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/9-7/15
- 7.4% White
- 22.2% Blue
- 18.5% Red
- 44.4% Black
- 7.4% Grey
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West Virginia: 2 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/8-6/10
- 100% Black
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Wyoming: 5 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/12-8/08
- 20% Red
- 20% Black
- 20% White
- 20% Blue
- 20% Grey
TOTAL UNIT COUNT THUS FAR.... 307
29 out of 50 States
Connecticut: 10 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/31-6/10
- 20% Blue
- 30% Black
- 20% White
- 20% Red
- 10% Grey
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Idaho: 5 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/2-7/14
- 40% Red
- 20% Black
- 20% White
- 20% Grey
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Massachusetts: 29 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/31-6/10
- 27.6% Black
- 20.7% Red
- 20.7% White
- 17.24% Blue
- 13.8% Grey
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Maine: 6 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/1-6/13
- 33.3% Blue
- 33.3% Grey
- 16.7% Black
- 16.7% Red
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Montana: 7 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/7-7/19
- 14.3% Red
- 14.3% White
- 14.3% Blue
- 28.6% Black
- 28.6% Grey
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New Hampshire: 9 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/1-6/17
- 33.3% Black
- 33.3% Grey
- 11.1% Blue
- 22.2% Red
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Ohio: 40 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/30-6/14
- 32.5% Black
- 17.5% Blue
- 20% Grey
- 12.5% White
- 17.5% Red
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North Dakota: 6 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/24-7/27
- 33.3% White
- 16.6% Blue
- 16.6% Red
- 16.6% Grey
- 16.6% Black
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New York: 26 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/28-6/9
- 23.1% Blue
- 26.9% Black
- 15.4% Grey
- 19.2% Red
- 15.4% White
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Oregon: 16 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/9-7/14
- 31.3% Black
- 25% Blue
- 12.5% Grey
- 18.75% White
- 12.5% Red
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Rhode Island: 4 Total Units
ETA Range: 5/31-6/10
- 25% Red
- 25% Black
- 50% Blue
-------------------------------
South Dakota: 2 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/29-8/5
- 50% Blue
- 50% Black
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Vermont: 4 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/4-6/21
- 50% Black
- 25% White
- 25% Blue
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Washington: 27 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/9-7/15
- 7.4% White
- 22.2% Blue
- 18.5% Red
- 44.4% Black
- 7.4% Grey
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West Virginia: 2 Total Units
ETA Range: 6/8-6/10
- 100% Black
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Wyoming: 5 Total Units
ETA Range: 7/12-8/08
- 20% Red
- 20% Black
- 20% White
- 20% Blue
- 20% Grey
TOTAL UNIT COUNT THUS FAR.... 307
29 out of 50 States