View Poll Results: What do you think of the Honda Civic Type R Mugen?
I don't like it
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I like it but not worth the money
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I like it and I am willing to pay whatever they are asking for it
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I was surfing TopGear.com and found it. What do you guys think of it?
http://www.topgear.com/uk/honda/civi...oad-test/mugen
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Honda doesn't hang around. Barely three months after it releases the Mugen Type R Concept, along comes the real thing in full production spec and ready to buy.
The trouble is that each one of the 20 cars available costs £38,599 - a staggering sum for a hot hatch, no matter how exclusive it is.
However, for your nearly £40k, you do get a bit of star treatment. Mugen, the AMG of Honda, will tailor the car to your exact requirements, and you'll be intimately involved in the build process because Mugen engineers will be in constant contact with you. Even the engine's ECU mapping can be tailored to suit you.
Mugen doesn't like turbos, so the naturally aspirated 2.0-litre engine with a new red line of 8,600rpm has had to be extensively retuned to generate the 237bhp and 157lb ft. That's 39bhp over the normal Type R. You'll also find stiffer suspension on this Type R, and the Mugen Civic has spent a fair amount of time in Honda's wind tunnel to get all those scoops and that faintly ridiculous rear wing working properly.
The results are impressive. It's an astounding car, because the whole thing feels so in tune with your every movement that you don't so much drive it as simply think it around the track. It's that intuitive. You feel like you're hardwired into the car. The throttle response is incredibly sharp, and everything feels brilliantly responsive, while a shortened gear change gives a quicker time between cogs, simply adding to the experience. Considering Honda gearboxes are already the snickiest in the world, this must've taken some doing.
As I only drove it on the billiard table tarmac at a track, it's difficult to know whether that stiffer suspension has affected the ride. But the concept felt better damped than the normal Type R when we drove it on UK roads in August, so there's no reason to suspect this production version will be any different.
The 20mm larger brakes deserve particular praise. When I drove the Mugen, it had been thrashed a lot before I got into it, but the brake pedal was still really firm under foot. No suggestion of fade here.
You can still go as hardcore as the concept by opting for sticky tyres or Recaros. Mugen will also charge you more money for taking away some car (you can shed 86kg by ditching the rear seats), but this version should be enough. Adding yet more pennies to a £38k Civic, even one as brilliant as this, just isn't worth it.
The trouble is that each one of the 20 cars available costs £38,599 - a staggering sum for a hot hatch, no matter how exclusive it is.
However, for your nearly £40k, you do get a bit of star treatment. Mugen, the AMG of Honda, will tailor the car to your exact requirements, and you'll be intimately involved in the build process because Mugen engineers will be in constant contact with you. Even the engine's ECU mapping can be tailored to suit you.
Mugen doesn't like turbos, so the naturally aspirated 2.0-litre engine with a new red line of 8,600rpm has had to be extensively retuned to generate the 237bhp and 157lb ft. That's 39bhp over the normal Type R. You'll also find stiffer suspension on this Type R, and the Mugen Civic has spent a fair amount of time in Honda's wind tunnel to get all those scoops and that faintly ridiculous rear wing working properly.
The results are impressive. It's an astounding car, because the whole thing feels so in tune with your every movement that you don't so much drive it as simply think it around the track. It's that intuitive. You feel like you're hardwired into the car. The throttle response is incredibly sharp, and everything feels brilliantly responsive, while a shortened gear change gives a quicker time between cogs, simply adding to the experience. Considering Honda gearboxes are already the snickiest in the world, this must've taken some doing.
As I only drove it on the billiard table tarmac at a track, it's difficult to know whether that stiffer suspension has affected the ride. But the concept felt better damped than the normal Type R when we drove it on UK roads in August, so there's no reason to suspect this production version will be any different.
The 20mm larger brakes deserve particular praise. When I drove the Mugen, it had been thrashed a lot before I got into it, but the brake pedal was still really firm under foot. No suggestion of fade here.
You can still go as hardcore as the concept by opting for sticky tyres or Recaros. Mugen will also charge you more money for taking away some car (you can shed 86kg by ditching the rear seats), but this version should be enough. Adding yet more pennies to a £38k Civic, even one as brilliant as this, just isn't worth it.
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Too much money. Tons of other cars with better performance for that much. But its much better than the Mugen Si in the US. I wonder how it compares to the Civic RR.
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So is it bad enough Honda has the FD2 in Japan, but now they also offer the Euro FN2 in Japan too. I mean really, what a slap in the face. Geeeez we BEG! for a Type R in the US and Japan now offers BOTH Type R's. So that's 3 Type R's they offer and NONE in the US. Come on????????????????
http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVICTYPE-R/EURO/
http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVICTYPE-R/EURO/
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Re: Honda Civic Type R Mugen
Guess you missed my post from back in November. Motortrend beat them to it:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-2006-2015-79/first-drive-2010-honda-civic-type-r-mugen-2682651/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-2006-2015-79/first-drive-2010-honda-civic-type-r-mugen-2682651/
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Guess you missed my post from back in November. Motortrend beat them to it:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2682651
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2682651
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I watched the episode of top gear where they compared the FN2R to the EP3R and they described the EP3R to be a whole lot better than this version.
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i just wanted to mention that top gear said the older EP3R was better than the newer one. i would be curious to see top gear do a review of this new Mugen R.
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The price is a joke. You could buy a Corvette Z06 or an M3 for that kind of money.
All that extra cost and they couldn't do anything about the torsion beam rear suspension on the car?
All that extra cost and they couldn't do anything about the torsion beam rear suspension on the car?
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The way you phrased it threw me off. You said 'this version' and I thought that you were talking about the Mugen Type R that the thread was about.
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