im looking into buying an accord and i have a turbo kit allready for it and im wondering aobut the auto tranny. i would like to get an auto car cause i have a long commute but i dont want to have tranny problems with the auto if im gonna have problems i will get a manual. i will only be running around 7-8 psi. what do i need tranny cooler? torque converter? or will it be okay stock? oh ye aim looking into a 92-93 accord.

 

Yes, a tranny cooler will help a bit. Don't go over 8psi without at least some type of management, or tuning.

 

if your looking at a car w/ >90k miles (which most 92-93 cars are @ now...more like 150k+) that auto tranny might die soon. That will be the weakest and most expensive link in your drivetrain....and will be exasterbated by turbocharging.

A tranny cooler doesn't help a tranny that's already worn out.

Do you drive in alot of stop-and-go? Otherwise, it might be a good idea to chase a 5spd.

 

the honda auto tranny sucks, it will only be worse with one that has lots of mileage on it. i wouldn't boost more than 6psi on the auto tranny.

 

I might be able to help you a little in this area. I work at a transmission shop. What are my thoughts? Comparing the honda transmission to every other transmission on the market, I would have to say it has to be one of the best designs made, Of course it's a honda.
Seriously though, Hondas automatic tranny's are designed using a setup similar to a manual transmission. All other automatic tranny's on the market are designed different. Honda tranny's using a two shaft and three shaft setup, in a way that is similar to a manual transmission, eleminated a lot of parts that fail daily on other auto tranny's.
I see very few hondas in the shop, Usually they have busted cases due to a wreck, or other small problems. I did recently get to work on one of the new CVT trannys, it is an awsome setup, the CVT tranny is a belt driven tranny, The belt however is made of two steel straps, and two hundred small metal pieces. if the belt was laying on a table, and you picked it up it would litteraly fall to pieces. Crazy huh?
I don't think I have ever seen a honda come into the shop due to converter filure. They are very well built.
I would recommend taking your turbo charged automatic setup to a local tranny shop and let them adjust it for you. There is an adjustment they can make that will give you a more firm shift, which will keep your clutches inside the tranny from slipping and possibly burning up. When daily driving it may be a little more firm than you like, but when you get on it, it will definatly give you better shifts.
I would tell you how to adjust it, but 1000 honda techs would run out to there car tonight and possibly mis adjust there's. If it is misadjusted it can cause your tranny to fail within just miles.
Any transmission shop should know how to make this adjustment, It may take a few attempts before you are happy with it. I have done several for local people, and they all love it, it even gives you better track times.
If you have any questions I will be glad to try and help out.

 

nice informative post

 

good response

 

other than the all so wonderful J series tranny, I'm glad that someone has finally confirmed what I've been trying to say for about 3 or 4 years now *laughs*. But seriously, the honda automatic trannies on the 4 cyls.....great, and will hold just as much as the automatic. A tranny cooler will help of course

- Nathan

 

Good info..

well, as far as i know, most of the blown tranny is from the clutchpack and bands, open up the oil pan and if you see some black pieces sitting on the bottle of the filter mesh, it's the clutch pack, if it still shifts, SELL THE CAR,because it wont be shifting much more without a rebuilt.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpyLude92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I might be able to help you a little in this area. I work at a transmission shop. What are my thoughts? Comparing the honda transmission to every other transmission on the market, I would have to say it has to be one of the best designs made, Of course it's a honda.
Seriously though, Hondas automatic tranny's are designed using a setup similar to a manual transmission. All other automatic tranny's on the market are designed different. Honda tranny's using a two shaft and three shaft setup, in a way that is similar to a manual transmission, eleminated a lot of parts that fail daily on other auto tranny's.
I see very few hondas in the shop, Usually they have busted cases due to a wreck, or other small problems. I did recently get to work on one of the new CVT trannys, it is an awsome setup, the CVT tranny is a belt driven tranny, The belt however is made of two steel straps, and two hundred small metal pieces. if the belt was laying on a table, and you picked it up it would litteraly fall to pieces. Crazy huh?
I don't think I have ever seen a honda come into the shop due to converter filure. They are very well built.
I would recommend taking your turbo charged automatic setup to a local tranny shop and let them adjust it for you. There is an adjustment they can make that will give you a more firm shift, which will keep your clutches inside the tranny from slipping and possibly burning up. When daily driving it may be a little more firm than you like, but when you get on it, it will definatly give you better shifts.
I would tell you how to adjust it, but 1000 honda techs would run out to there car tonight and possibly mis adjust there's. If it is misadjusted it can cause your tranny to fail within just miles.
Any transmission shop should know how to make this adjustment, It may take a few attempts before you are happy with it. I have done several for local people, and they all love it, it even gives you better track times.
If you have any questions I will be glad to try and help out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

then why do so many people with auto trannies end up blowing them and then doing 5sp swaps or going the whole 9 yards and doing H22 and 5sp swaps. btw i'm speaking from experience. i have also talked with numerous honda owners who have had rebuilt autos and they don't last long cause nobody can rebuild them right. also what about the 97+ and CL/TL SS auto trannies, that are complete crap. also how about the 98-02 V6 trannies, honda extended the warranty on the 00-02s. honda autos suck.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KGAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

then why do so many people with auto trannies end up blowing them and then doing 5sp swaps or going the whole 9 yards and doing H22 and 5sp swaps. btw i'm speaking from experience. i have also talked with numerous honda owners who have had rebuilt autos and they don't last long cause nobody can rebuild them right. also what about the 97+ and CL/TL SS auto trannies, that are complete crap. also how about the 98-02 V6 trannies, honda extended the warranty on the 00-02s. honda autos suck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sure there are just as many blown 5spds laying around H-Ters' garages as blown automatics. I've got two myself

And I only hope the tranny in our 99 Odyssey(J35A1) beats the odds. It has 103k on it right now.

 

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I'm sure there are just as many blown 5spds laying around H-Ters' garages as blown automatics. I've got two myself

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well considering that HT is a performance orientated board and 5sp go hand-in-hand with performance than yeah that statement is probably true. i see more blown auto tranny questions than 5sp questions on these honda boards. i'd be willing to bet most blown 5sp are due to driving style and not hondas poor design.

 

With the exception of the few trannies listed above (J-series, etc), Honda automatics do just fine as long as you CHANGE THE FLUID every 30k miles like you're supposed to do, and use Honda ATF. Any auto tranny will eventually fail if you abuse it, that includes Hondas. But if you change the fluid and drive it like it was meant to be driven, it will last a long long time without problems. The problem is that people never change their tranny fluid (probably one of the few most neglected fluids in the car), the internal non-servicable filter plugs up, fluid flow is restricted, and it's all downhill from there. However if the fluid is changed regularly before it gets a chance to get dirty, the filter stays relatively clean and free flowing, and tranny = happy. Honda autos are not bad and do not suck, they are simply picky about staying clean. Treat them right, and they will return the favor.

As far as the transmission recall, of the 1.2 million Hondas and Acuras that are included in that warranty, only 2% (which is 24,000 cars) of those have actually had these transmission problems. That's not that much when you look at the big picture of just how many Honda autos are out there.

But if you still think Honda autos suck so much, go try a Chrysler auto tranny on for size