BoorishId

Ok if you were to do an engine swap to an inline 4 01 accord what would be the best swap. I was just looking at maybe buying a crate of the v6 for the same year but ive been hearing the new accords are like 244 hp or something and ive seen people to swaps to acura v6's. So what really us the best swap, how about a k series?

NAiL05

CL-S motor =D. Other than that turbo the f23a or whichever 4 banger you got.

Crono139

If you have to swap it, go with the H22.


Because you don't have an AV6 right now, I don't recommend trying to put a V6 in there. It'll be hassle, and a lot of work will be needed.

Waste of money, IMO.

BoorishId

what is a cl-s? I looked that up its all its like a mercedys 3.2 or something?! I think that couls be a bit complicated. As far as swapping out a honda/acura v6 why is that hard, do you have to do a wiring harness swap? Even if i payed for the swap it seems like it worth the money i mean im getting like 94bhp more form the thing. Im really looking into matching up like the best v6 for honda with a 6 speed trannsmission and putting a supercharger on it. Excpecting to pay around 10 grand for the tranny and crate engine and the labor to swap if i dont do it myself, does that sound about right?

Crono139

Acura CL Type-S.

You might as well get rid of your car, buy an AV6, then do what you want.

philadd

The problem is that when you compare the engine bay of the 4-cyl to the V6, everything is on opposite sides of the engine bay. That means all the accesories, battery, power steering lines, A/C lines, etc. Not to mention the wiring will be way off.

Crono139

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That's what I was trying to get at.

I'm not even sure if the suspension will handle that of a V6 motor, and everything else that is needed.

H2290

Things are definitely completely rerouted in the V6. You will probably be doing a lot of custom lines like brakes, wiring, shift linkage, etc. With an idea like that you would be better off trading your Accord for a newer V6 coupe with the 6 speed. If you traded in your 01 with $10k cash I am sure you could get into an 03+ 6 speed coupe with the V6.

BoorishId

oh wow i didnt realize it was that much work to do the swap i sorda bought it with the swap in mind . i just bought it for 13k still making payments so theres no way im trading it in, and when i get a new car its going to be an infiniti or lotus not a honda . The whole point of this honda is to sharpen my import skills so i dont break a 40k car. I mean ive worked on sevral muscle cars its a whole diffrent ball game. Anyways is there a 4 banger swap? Some honda kids have told me k series, is that feasiblem will it put out torq? i mean thats like an si engine right?

H2290

If you have a manual transmission that's the first step. Now, if you want to learn a lot you should read up and go turbo. If you have the financial means it would be great to buy a spare F22A block and build it for boost in your garage or something. Research everything and do it right the first time. Then yank out the old engine and put the built one in. You could even keep the original engine to use as a spare.

Crono139

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F23 in this case.

BoorishId

hmmm, well i found the site in for Dr. Evil as the FAQ suggests and they dont seem to carry honda transsmisions there just mustang and some other stuff. What is my best bet for a new tranny? Should i have like an h22 rebuilt and regeared or what? I would have liked to purchase a new on from Dr. Evil maybe i missed something on the site i dunno.

H2290

Do you have a manual or auto? The manual can handle some pretty good power. New clutch may be necessary at higher levels but the tranny itself is pretty solid. As for auto I think Levelten does some auto reinforcement for Hondas. Also for an auto the biggest thing you may want to add is an external tranny cooler.

P.S. F23A duh! I have an 01, I should know that. Of course I have a 90 and an 06 too.

BoorishId

well i have an auto, but i want to convert it over to a stick.

H2290

These transmissions are known to fail even at stock power levels for the V6 (200) so swapping to a manual would definitely be a good idea.

Crono139

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A Dr. Evil tranny is also an option.

spartan6

Ok a K-series is probably best b/c you are getting an I-VTEC engine as opposed to a regular one, plus it is a 2.3 I think.
But they will probably cost you some cash b/c they are relatively new engines.
I have a 93 Accord with an F22A1 engine which is, well not excellent, but okay I guess. I plan on dropping an H22A1 engine which is a 2.2L DOHC VTEC.
In an 01 Accord I would probably do the K-Series swap, but if money and time are an issue, you should be able to get an H22 for about $2,000 rebuilt and ready, then you just need a tranny. labor shouldn't be extravagant, so maybe $6,000 to get an engine, tranny and install (less if you don it yourself.)
I would go research and develop pros and cons, then decide.
Hope I helped, later.

H2290

You could do an H22A swap but you would be wasting a perfectly good engine. And a K series is just plain overpriced! i-VTEC will get pwned by a turbo F23A.

BoorishId

But a k series turbo will own and f23 turbo . Price really isnt the issue here i just want the best thing i can put in this car is.

As far as the tranny though Like i said Dr Evil didnt seem to have a transmission for my car, i guess they could reinforce it though. The thing is if i want a damn k series then im going to need to buy a manual tranny that will mount up to it, is that just a k series transmission? Also with a k swap is it going to be hell hard becuase of wiring and will these motors and trannys acually mount into an accord, im sure you need a custom mout kit right?

H2290

It's your money, but I wouldn't waste mine just because the latest fad is that saying you have a K series makes you King ****.