Can Accords do well at the track?
But it certainly is an option.
11-03-2009, 05:37 AM
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11-03-2009, 06:14 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
I owned a 1998 LX with a slushbox and F23... it wasn't terrible but theres something about the 94-97 gen that I like, it looks smaller, I think it could clean up nicely. Now I don't have my heart set on a modded Accord, usually I wouldn't bother but the search to have a competitive daily driver and fun can that isn't like everyone elses is key here.
11-04-2009, 12:01 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
My CD5 Goes mid 11s and traps 129-130 On pump gas... And DOT legal tires. How I drive it everyday I drive it (I only drive it on non rainy days, but every one of them I can...)
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Looking for 10s and around 140 Traps next year on slicks and Q16
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Looking for 10s and around 140 Traps next year on slicks and Q16
11-04-2009, 06:31 AM
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More shots of the bay and setup?
Local guy has an 04 Accord Coupe(V6 Of course) with an intake and slicks it went 13.9 @101
Local guy has an 04 Accord Coupe(V6 Of course) with an intake and slicks it went 13.9 @101
11-04-2009, 10:02 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
If you're looking for a better starter platform, try finding a '94-'95 EX model. The only models in the 5th gen that comes standard with 4-wheel disc brakes and a rear sway bar. Otherwise you'll have to swap/modify your chassis in order to install theses (what I think are) essential track options.
11-04-2009, 10:08 AM
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First pics were with the old Topmount and PT6176.
This is whats currently on the car.... Homemade Divided collector Manifold and 67MM TO4ZR
This is whats currently on the car.... Homemade Divided collector Manifold and 67MM TO4ZR
11-04-2009, 10:27 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
Stock accord EX-V6 does a 14 -16 second quarter which isn't overly terrible. You can stuff a (small) turbo, upgrade the engine and do niterous to get 300-350HP. That can and will kill a 500hp V8 mustang.
The non-coupe accords are no good, and the 4-bangers are NOT worth your time. Racing cars start with V6's with 3L or more or V8's with 5.8L or more otherwise the HP to Weight ratio is just not good enough.
The non-coupe accords are no good, and the 4-bangers are NOT worth your time. Racing cars start with V6's with 3L or more or V8's with 5.8L or more otherwise the HP to Weight ratio is just not good enough.
11-04-2009, 11:05 AM
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Stock accord EX-V6 does a 14 -16 second quarter which isn't overly terrible. You can stuff a (small) turbo, upgrade the engine and do niterous to get 300-350HP. That can and will kill a 500hp V8 mustang.
The non-coupe accords are no good, and the 4-bangers are NOT worth your time. Racing cars start with V6's with 3L or more or V8's with 5.8L or more otherwise the HP to Weight ratio is just not good enough.
The non-coupe accords are no good, and the 4-bangers are NOT worth your time. Racing cars start with V6's with 3L or more or V8's with 5.8L or more otherwise the HP to Weight ratio is just not good enough.
11-07-2009, 08:56 PM
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this is a little off topic, but i want to put an aftermarket exhaust on my 2002 accord ex v6 coupe and im not really sure what i should do. i dont really care about the power gain i just want something that sounds good. any advice is appriciated
11-08-2009, 12:22 AM
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So I personally have a 95 Accord wagon with a H22 Type S with some bolt ons and I am pulling 204hp to the wheel.
I have autocrossed this car before with all season Falken Ziex tires and I was being laughed at by a DC5, RSX Type S. But his laughs and giggles went away when he realized my times were 2 seconds faster then him. It is not the car it is the driver. When you match the drivers than the cars matter a lot.
Majority of hondas are not to be race cars but that doesnt stop any of us. We do what we can with what we have.
Now it all depends on your budget and the kind of racing you want to do.
My Accord was my first car and I love her too much to ever give her up. Thats why I have her as my DD and rarely as a track car. I have my miata for that. But money talks for performance and practice.
My last autocross event had a Viper RTS, I believe and he could not bet my times. Its all about the driver not the power
I have autocrossed this car before with all season Falken Ziex tires and I was being laughed at by a DC5, RSX Type S. But his laughs and giggles went away when he realized my times were 2 seconds faster then him. It is not the car it is the driver. When you match the drivers than the cars matter a lot.
Majority of hondas are not to be race cars but that doesnt stop any of us. We do what we can with what we have.
Now it all depends on your budget and the kind of racing you want to do.
My Accord was my first car and I love her too much to ever give her up. Thats why I have her as my DD and rarely as a track car. I have my miata for that. But money talks for performance and practice.
My last autocross event had a Viper RTS, I believe and he could not bet my times. Its all about the driver not the power
11-08-2009, 04:35 PM
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11-08-2009, 06:13 PM
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on the little email i got from im assuming the webmaster, it said i cant start any threads until ive posted at least 5 posts and waited 15 days. and i couldnt find anything but im sorry that i interrupted your discussion... but that guy couldve said it a little more politely, thats all im saying
11-08-2009, 08:31 PM
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11-08-2009, 09:10 PM
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11-09-2009, 05:16 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
Stock accord EX-V6 does a 14 -16 second quarter which isn't overly terrible. You can stuff a (small) turbo, upgrade the engine and do niterous to get 300-350HP. That can and will kill a 500hp V8 mustang.
The non-coupe accords are no good, and the 4-bangers are NOT worth your time. Racing cars start with V6's with 3L or more or V8's with 5.8L or more otherwise the HP to Weight ratio is just not good enough.
The non-coupe accords are no good, and the 4-bangers are NOT worth your time. Racing cars start with V6's with 3L or more or V8's with 5.8L or more otherwise the HP to Weight ratio is just not good enough.
i hung with a V6 CD5 in my '91 4dr with a F22a1, a6 IM swap, intake, and exhaust. thats makes me real confident in the V6 CD5 models. and if the 4 bangers arent worth it, why is Bisimoto running a 400+whp F22a1 that ALL MOTOR. your an idiot. leave and never come back...keep your stupidity to yourself.
I'm looking for a DD that I can have some fun with at the track too, not bone stock of course. I am curious to see if the Accord actually offers something under the radar regarding performance and if so what year and models?
$6,000 or less...
Does a certain year and trim stick out? Or are they basically all low potential solid daily drivers? No I don't mean I am remotely interested in "putting 100 grand under the hood"... I am fairly seasoned when it comes to performance cars but I'm back in school so I had to sell my prized car.
Or is looking for an Accord beyond daily driving use a waste of time?
$6,000 or less...
Does a certain year and trim stick out? Or are they basically all low potential solid daily drivers? No I don't mean I am remotely interested in "putting 100 grand under the hood"... I am fairly seasoned when it comes to performance cars but I'm back in school so I had to sell my prized car.
Or is looking for an Accord beyond daily driving use a waste of time?
keep the F22a that comes with it and swap on an H23 intake manifold and throttle body. the F22a's are a dime a dozen and last forever. i got one for $50 from a friend and it only has 140k on it. I/H/E combo and it'll give it a little more pep. get a Bisi stage one or delta 272 regrind cam, maxbore 68mm TB, port match the upper plenum, and a chipped p06 ECU, you'll be hanging with most H22 swapped CBs and CDs.
here you go:
90-93 accord: $900-$2k in good condition
maxbore TB: $100
H23 IM and TB: $35-50 from a junk yard or some accord forums
Exhaust: if you go to an exhaust shop thats good-$80-$120
one off ebay: $150-$300
header: ebay-$80
Bisimoto: $650(but worth it. 27whp gain on a BONE stock F22a1)
Bisi cam: $200
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Delta regrind: $115
Chipped ECU: $80
about $200 for a good tune
some head work(port and polish): $500
(if my pricing is wrong, someone correct me)
all this and your still at about $2500. with loads more for more stuff. a good $1k into the suspension($630 for Func./Form Type Ones, $160 for a Progress rear sway bar, bushings(about $200 for poly bushings) and you'll be golden. all these will have you handling well and the HP and TQ gains will be significant over stock.
getting an H swap will have you right at about 180-190whp and 160-170tq. ugh....for about $1500. but once you start to mod it, the cost go up. modding an H isnt cheap. but hey. im against H swaps because of the cost and the power gains you get. lol.
for about $1600 you can get a DSM kit(turbo manifold, turbo, and some pipping) and a good tune and be at 210-220whp and matching torque on a stock block at about 8-10psi. with an H22 swap you'll spend at least $800+ for that amount of power unless you spray.
now if im wrong any of the things ive posted, let me know folks. just going by rough numbers.
11-09-2009, 10:16 AM
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trying to make power na with an f is like swimming in mud,,, anfd dollar per dollar the h responds better. however, you can boost the f an make 300/300 on a stock block for 1500 and then things gt fun.
11-09-2009, 11:35 AM
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