fixed gear bicycle
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well alright then..haha
yeah the stem and pedals seem to be the worst part about them, but i dont see much wrong with it for a decent beater first bike
thanks for the input though.
yeah the stem and pedals seem to be the worst part about them, but i dont see much wrong with it for a decent beater first bike
thanks for the input though.
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Re: (barroomhero)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by barroomhero »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bikes direct frames are essentially re-badged fuji track...
ive had the two side by side and the frames are identical
there made out of crap(4130) at least by many peoples standards
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"In theory, bicycle tubing could be made with 4130 steel that is similar in weight and strength to Reynolds 531. For years, 4130 tubing was standard in the American aircraft industry, just as Reynolds tubes were used in British made aircraft. However, marketing is always more important than engineering. A 4130 tube is generic, and therefore of little marketing value. So, bike makers of the '70's and '80's preferred to use tubes that could be promoted, such as those from Reynolds and Columbus.
When companies in that era used 4130, they often used straight gauge tubes of medium weight. They COULD have asked suppliers to make double-butted, thin walled 4130 tubes, but that would be pointless. Those sorts of tubes were already being supplied by Reynolds and Columbus.
So, although it is possible to make a light weight 4130 frame that is as strong as a light weight Reynolds frame, the 4130 frames that were actually built often weighed a pound or so more than a Reynolds frame of the same size. And, the Reynolds frames were often on top-of-the-line bikes, so they were set up with lighter, more expensive components. The 4130 frames got heavier cheaper components. In 1974, a company that was selling a 23 pound Reynolds bike might have also sold a much cheaper 28 pound 4130 bike. But, it was NOT impossible to make a 23 pound 4130 bike...just no motivation." (Taken from bike forums)
ive had the two side by side and the frames are identical
there made out of crap(4130) at least by many peoples standards
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"In theory, bicycle tubing could be made with 4130 steel that is similar in weight and strength to Reynolds 531. For years, 4130 tubing was standard in the American aircraft industry, just as Reynolds tubes were used in British made aircraft. However, marketing is always more important than engineering. A 4130 tube is generic, and therefore of little marketing value. So, bike makers of the '70's and '80's preferred to use tubes that could be promoted, such as those from Reynolds and Columbus.
When companies in that era used 4130, they often used straight gauge tubes of medium weight. They COULD have asked suppliers to make double-butted, thin walled 4130 tubes, but that would be pointless. Those sorts of tubes were already being supplied by Reynolds and Columbus.
So, although it is possible to make a light weight 4130 frame that is as strong as a light weight Reynolds frame, the 4130 frames that were actually built often weighed a pound or so more than a Reynolds frame of the same size. And, the Reynolds frames were often on top-of-the-line bikes, so they were set up with lighter, more expensive components. The 4130 frames got heavier cheaper components. In 1974, a company that was selling a 23 pound Reynolds bike might have also sold a much cheaper 28 pound 4130 bike. But, it was NOT impossible to make a 23 pound 4130 bike...just no motivation." (Taken from bike forums)
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Re: (enkeirp02)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by enkeirp02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
"In theory, bicycle tubing could be made with 4130 steel that is similar in weight and strength to Reynolds 531. For years, 4130 tubing was standard in the American aircraft industry, just as Reynolds tubes were used in British made aircraft. However, marketing is always more important than engineering. A 4130 tube is generic, and therefore of little marketing value. So, bike makers of the '70's and '80's preferred to use tubes that could be promoted, such as those from Reynolds and Columbus.
When companies in that era used 4130, they often used straight gauge tubes of medium weight. They COULD have asked suppliers to make double-butted, thin walled 4130 tubes, but that would be pointless. Those sorts of tubes were already being supplied by Reynolds and Columbus.
So, although it is possible to make a light weight 4130 frame that is as strong as a light weight Reynolds frame, the 4130 frames that were actually built often weighed a pound or so more than a Reynolds frame of the same size. And, the Reynolds frames were often on top-of-the-line bikes, so they were set up with lighter, more expensive components. The 4130 frames got heavier cheaper components. In 1974, a company that was selling a 23 pound Reynolds bike might have also sold a much cheaper 28 pound 4130 bike. But, it was NOT impossible to make a 23 pound 4130 bike...just no motivation." (Taken from bike forums) </TD></TR></TABLE>
great copy and paste job, but kind of irrelevent.
i said that as far as track frames, and any good bike frames are concerned, commn, straight gauged 4130 chromoly is **** compared to other tubing on the market.
"In theory, bicycle tubing could be made with 4130 steel that is similar in weight and strength to Reynolds 531. For years, 4130 tubing was standard in the American aircraft industry, just as Reynolds tubes were used in British made aircraft. However, marketing is always more important than engineering. A 4130 tube is generic, and therefore of little marketing value. So, bike makers of the '70's and '80's preferred to use tubes that could be promoted, such as those from Reynolds and Columbus.
When companies in that era used 4130, they often used straight gauge tubes of medium weight. They COULD have asked suppliers to make double-butted, thin walled 4130 tubes, but that would be pointless. Those sorts of tubes were already being supplied by Reynolds and Columbus.
So, although it is possible to make a light weight 4130 frame that is as strong as a light weight Reynolds frame, the 4130 frames that were actually built often weighed a pound or so more than a Reynolds frame of the same size. And, the Reynolds frames were often on top-of-the-line bikes, so they were set up with lighter, more expensive components. The 4130 frames got heavier cheaper components. In 1974, a company that was selling a 23 pound Reynolds bike might have also sold a much cheaper 28 pound 4130 bike. But, it was NOT impossible to make a 23 pound 4130 bike...just no motivation." (Taken from bike forums) </TD></TR></TABLE>
great copy and paste job, but kind of irrelevent.
i said that as far as track frames, and any good bike frames are concerned, commn, straight gauged 4130 chromoly is **** compared to other tubing on the market.
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Re: (barroomhero)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by barroomhero »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
great copy and paste job, but kind of irrelevent.
i said that as far as track frames, and any good bike frames are concerned, commn, straight gauged 4130 chromoly is **** compared to other tubing on the market. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Which is why I quoted the source as it is not my own words. I used this statement to rebut your comment about "crap 4130", as you stated. However, the individual who posted the bike wants to use it as a beater and not a full fledged velo-track bike. So as far as relevance, you my friend are not addressing his need for a bike.
great copy and paste job, but kind of irrelevent.
i said that as far as track frames, and any good bike frames are concerned, commn, straight gauged 4130 chromoly is **** compared to other tubing on the market.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Which is why I quoted the source as it is not my own words. I used this statement to rebut your comment about "crap 4130", as you stated. However, the individual who posted the bike wants to use it as a beater and not a full fledged velo-track bike. So as far as relevance, you my friend are not addressing his need for a bike.
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From: Sweaty Ass, AZ, usa
I gave the individual who posted a quick review on the bike hes looking into, which includes the fact that it is made of 4130, which is considered by most (in the framebuilding comunity) to be crap. Its cheap, and its strong enough, hence me concluding that it is a decent bike for the price.
I fail to see where i veered off the track of relevence in my summary of said bike.
I fail to see where i veered off the track of relevence in my summary of said bike.
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Re: (barroomhero)
Your summary of the bike was not too bad, in fact, you were honest in your overview and I respect that. I just did not like how just because a material is not the "preferred or best" that is must be "crap", inferior yes but not crap.
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Re: (enkeirp02)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by enkeirp02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your summary of the bike was not too bad, in fact, you were honest in your overview and I respect that. I just did not like how just because a material is not the "preferred or best" that is must be "crap", inferior yes but not crap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ahhh but i said crap (by most peoples standards)...
na i see what ur sayin, chromoly is fine for a non comepetive streetgoing frame for sure
ahhh but i said crap (by most peoples standards)...
na i see what ur sayin, chromoly is fine for a non comepetive streetgoing frame for sure
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Re: (GoldenONE)
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bike #2
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stop trying to floss my kitchen table son
bike #2
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stop trying to floss my kitchen table son
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Re: (sammysnakes)
Pic of my Langster when I bought it, i've since removed the rear brake and changed the stem out for a Specialized carbon stem and added Campy toe clips.
I've been thinking of picking up a IRO Jamie Roy frame and doing a nice build up but we'll see.
I've been thinking of picking up a IRO Jamie Roy frame and doing a nice build up but we'll see.
Re: (t o m)
hey Tom, I've seen a fixed gear and they suck. Sean has a dumb flat tire bitch bike in his room, he has already realized scrapers are way more superior
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Re: (Mr.OB*GYN_Rhett)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.OB*GYN_Rhett »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey Tom, I've seen a fixed gear and they suck. Sean has a dumb flat tire bitch bike in his room</TD></TR></TABLE>
you mad because the bike is taking away your sean time?
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you mad because the bike is taking away your sean time?
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Re: (Mr.OB*GYN_Rhett)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.OB*GYN_Rhett »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey Tom, I've seen a fixed gear and they suck. Sean has a dumb flat tire bitch bike in his room, he has already realized scrapers are way more superior </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol
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Re: (Thrashin)
no its actually really nice getting that ****** outta the house, the bonus with that is the bike has such a crotch killer seat, that i get to sensually massage that nice shaft of seans every evening.
Tom, STFU bitch
Tom, STFU bitch
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Re: (sammysnakes)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sammysnakes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i used to catch jesse sniffing my bike seat. </TD></TR></TABLE>
cant help it, i love the smell of strawberry lube
cant help it, i love the smell of strawberry lube
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Re: (Thrashin)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Thrashin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mad because the bike is taking away your sean time?
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He's mad because he wants one but won't admit it. Scraper bikes is on the scene
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sammysnakes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i used to catch jesse sniffing my bike seat.
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Wowzas
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He's mad because he wants one but won't admit it. Scraper bikes is on the scene
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sammysnakes »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i used to catch jesse sniffing my bike seat.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Wowzas