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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by HBKFanatic
Yes... why?
because it rides like ****. and i was surprised... my DA was about that low and rode pretty good, i thought.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Egezzy
depends on the suspension...
Originally Posted by dapek
^^Ya as others said, completely depends on the suspension setup. Being lower will create a relatively worst ride either way, but with cheap suspension components it would be worlds worst than a quality setup.
Koni/GC w/ extended top hats. 380/450 spring rates

it bottoms out on EVERYTHING. sometimes on bumps that i can't even see will make it bottom out. i'm disappointed with this setup so far, i've always been told that its the best. But my Omnipower coilovers seemed a lot nicer.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Well I was at that height and I would bottom out on some stupid ****. The truth is that tucking tire doesnt look good on a daily. Thats too low man period. Its not the shock travel that matters, its the simple fact that your upper control arms will hit the shock tower first.
I rode that setup in a DA and I was impressed. You just need to raise an inch and half man. The aesthetic value isn't worth having a shitty ride. People will look at it but you're the one driving it.

I just raised my suspension and it rides a lot nicer. No more headaches and it still looks pretty good IMO!

That setup is good man, trust. You're just too low.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Well I was at that height and I would bottom out on some stupid ****. The truth is that tucking tire doesnt look good on a daily. Thats too low man period. Its not the shock travel that matters, its the simple fact that your upper control arms will hit the shock tower first.
I rode that setup in a DA and I was impressed. You just need to raise an inch and half man. The aesthetic value isn't worth having a shitty ride. People will look at it but you're the one driving it.

I just raised my suspension and it rides a lot nicer. No more headaches and it still looks pretty good IMO!

That setup is good man, trust. You're just too low.
thanks for commenting.

I don't think my upper control arms are hitting anything though. It seems i have a lot more clearance there then i have shock travel. once a week i'll take my wheel off and jack up the suspension to see what hits first. I can never get it high enough for anything to hit without getting scared the car will tip, but it gets much closer to the shock hitting the top hats then the UCA hitting the shock tower. Plus, there aren't any scratches on the UCA at all.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknitionDc2
thats a very good idea^^. deff dont wanna mess up thos coilovers. Hows the ride after you installed them.
thanks dood!

ride was much better after installing those spacers. i was able to unload the spring pre-load so it did help soften the ride...mind you i'm running 16k front and 14k rear rates so 'soften' is relative

it also helped for removing my wheels and such as this suspension had my tires tucking even when the car was on the hoist...pain in the ***...
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by g2_teg_
Koni/GC w/ extended top hats. 380/450 spring rates

it bottoms out on EVERYTHING. sometimes on bumps that i can't even see will make it bottom out. i'm disappointed with this setup so far, i've always been told that its the best. But my Omnipower coilovers seemed a lot nicer.
your rates are too low and you have extended top hats. that is why you are bottoming out.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by g2_teg_
thanks for commenting.

I don't think my upper control arms are hitting anything though. It seems i have a lot more clearance there then i have shock travel. once a week i'll take my wheel off and jack up the suspension to see what hits first. I can never get it high enough for anything to hit without getting scared the car will tip, but it gets much closer to the shock hitting the top hats then the UCA hitting the shock tower. Plus, there aren't any scratches on the UCA at all.
UCAs wouldn't have scratches. Regardless of what coilover setup you use, when you ride that low, you are going to sacrifice comfort.

Read this:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/you-cannot-ride-slammed-have-smooth-ride-2603553/


When you go really low you change the suspension dynamics a lot. They weren't designed to be that low so the components don't work effectively. Its just physics+geometry. You would want bumpsteer correcting lower ball joints to add space between your lower control arm & spindle. That would help fix the angle of the axle & suspension components. There are many things you can do, that is just one of them.

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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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your rates are too low and you have extended top hats. that is why you are bottoming out.
why would the top hats make me bottom out? what rates would you suggest for a car this low and a car this light?
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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UCAs wouldn't have scratches. Regardless of what coilover setup you use, when you ride that low, you are going to sacrifice comfort.

Read this:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2603553


When you go really low you change the suspension dynamics a lot. They weren't designed to be that low so the components don't work effectively. Its just physics+geometry. You would want bumpsteer correcting lower ball joints to add space between your lower control arm & spindle. That would help fix the angle of the axle & suspension components. There are many things you can do, that is just one of them.
i've read that before, but i honestly didn't think i was slammed.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HBKFanatic
UCAs wouldn't have scratches. Regardless of what coilover setup you use, when you ride that low, you are going to sacrifice comfort.

Read this:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2603553


When you go really low you change the suspension dynamics a lot. They weren't designed to be that low so the components don't work effectively. Its just physics+geometry. You would want bumpsteer correcting lower ball joints to add space between your lower control arm & spindle. That would help fix the angle of the axle & suspension components. There are many things you can do, that is just one of them.
but by putting in an "extended" ball joint you have effectively increased the distance between the ball joints. that in turn increases the angle of the lca which isnt close to oe either. point being is once you modify your suspension in any way you are compromising something to get something in return. i guess you could say it is almost like newton.s third law of motion.


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why would the top hats make me bottom out? what rates would you suggest for a car this low and a car this light?
using extended top hats is to "gain" travel but yet sometimes it can also restrict it. you are raising the mounting point of the damper rod. say before you had the top hats and you would hit a bump at speed. you would bottom out the damper. now with the extended hat you are not bottoming out the damper but you are hitting your uca like mentioned before or tire on body. this is just a general example based on a double a arm fwd honda.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Yeah I have never bottomed out my type 1s dampers. Uca hits before.
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/maceatl/4899768926/http://www.flickr.com/photos/maceatl/4899768926/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/maceatl/, on Flickr

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maceatl/4899175639/http://www.flickr.com/photos/maceatl/4899175639/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/maceatl/, on Flickr
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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Interesting rear wing. What is it?
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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Looks like the Bomex one
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Looks like the Bomex one
Correct.

I miss my hatch.
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Old Oct 17, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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I can drive over mt everest without bottoming out.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/boger/4079009669/http://www.flickr.com/photos/boger/4079009669/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/boger/, on Flickr
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Mine from two weeks ago:



Thanks to Ryan for coming in from Detroit to snap off a few pics!
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Bay shot from a car show this weekend. It was a pretty good showing considering they had 2 weeks to set it up. The event was to show local support for a racetrack closer to the cities

Don't mind the speed swirls in my paint lol
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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few pics i snapped with my droid. GSR swapped.




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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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just a simple and clean hatch... not as bad *** as most of ht's hb
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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both of you have gorgeous cars.. those burgundy lookin wheels on that black hatch look amazing..

kelb- you ever sand/buff/polish/wax that beast? i love black cars <3

pacu, what color is that?
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Mine from two weeks ago:

Thanks to Ryan for coming in from Detroit to snap off a few pics!
Cool back drop dood! hatch is looking good!

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Bay shot from a car show this weekend. It was a pretty good showing considering they had 2 weeks to set it up. The event was to show local support for a racetrack closer to the cities

Don't mind the speed swirls in my paint lol
That white VC is nice dood! can't beat displacement

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just a simple and clean hatch... not as bad *** as most of ht's hb
i love those wheels. always wanted a set in 16", gold.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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@dontoh that's tafetta white

tnx mashimaro!
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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tafetta white huh? been lookin for a whitish color for a new paint job.. i just wish i could get more of a reflection outta such a light color
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