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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 01:40 AM
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Can you weld on a Steel Bov Flange on to a Alumimum pipe??

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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 01:43 AM
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Not very good idea because it won't last very long, but yes.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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NO
two different metals with two different melting points, no can do
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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besides that ones a ferrous metal and the other isn't
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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NO
two different metals with two different melting points, no can do
somebody said that you could weld them together. I forgot what the term was called for that particular type of weld though. Maybe some of H-T's welders know what I'm talking about?
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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somebody said that you could weld them together. I forgot what the term was called for that particular type of weld though. Maybe some of H-T's welders know what I'm talking about?
Yeah...it's called JB Weld
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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jb weld maybe.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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you can braze it
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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How can you braze it?

The aluminum has melted long before you get the steel hot enough for the bronze brazing rod to bond on the molecular level.

The way you affix aluminum and steel together properly is with a fastener. Bolt, pop rivet, etc.


[Modified by J. Davis, 8:25 PM 1/22/2003]
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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in zero gravity, and under water its possible. Ive seen the result its crazy looking. Supposedly really strong too, but expect to pay about 5000$ for 1 bead.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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It can be done with a mig welder but it will be weak but should be good enough to hold the boost, I really dont recommend it unless you are really comfatable.
TIP(heat the steel a little bit before you weld them) Brazing should be ok.
But for the record I dont recommend it.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Default Re: Would you be able to weld...?? (KC GSR)

haha
though i bet the JB is stronger than a steel to aluminum mig weld
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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here's the best solution I can think of...get an aluminum flange or steel piping


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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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in zero gravity, and under water its possible. Ive seen the result its crazy looking. Supposedly really strong too, but expect to pay about 5000$ for 1 bead.
OUCH!!!!!
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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here's the best solution I can think of...get a steel flange
Best option.

You can't weld steel and aluminum together.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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I welded Aluminum to steel before...............................i dont think you would like the picture. Oh yeah after a week it broke.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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what about steel and cast iron?
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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I welded Aluminum to steel before...............................i dont think you would like the picture. Oh yeah after a week it broke.
You didn't actually "weld" it. You may have tried to weld it, but you just made a mess.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Would you be able to weld...?? (FFgeoff)

in zero gravity, and under water its possible. Ive seen the result its crazy looking. Supposedly really strong too, but expect to pay about 5000$ for 1 bead.
Sweet, a bead worth more than my entire vehicle. That'd be one to see.

JBweld should work out ok, but usually the results are not pretty.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Would you be able to weld...?? (dumbkid)

what about steel and cast iron?
Cast welds beautifully. It's the single easiest metal to weld, even easier than mild steel. It joins very easily with other steels, and it's half of the puddle rushes over to meet the other more reluctant alloy for trouble free beads.

Unfortunately, cast iron's welds are extremely brittle which is where the "you can't weld cast" myth sprung up. AS LONG AS IT IS NOT A LOAD BEARING WELD then welded cast iron will last forever. As soon as you stress it... it will eventually fail.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Easy...........TIG and a high nickel filler rod.

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Easy...........TIG and a high nickel filler rod.

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Wasnt too easy for 2 local welders, i welded the flange up to the manifold and it kept cracking at the welds. And yes I cut heat expansion slots in the flange I decided to just make one from scratch now.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Most BOVs can be purchased with either an aluminum or a steel weld-on flange. Just buy the aluminum flange (less then $30) for your brand BOV.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Would you be able to weld...?? (BigMoose)

Easy...........TIG and a high nickel filler rod.

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I know somebody had to know their sh!te out there. It's nt recommended though because of the different expansion rates, and that whole electrolosis thing going on. Not to mention the filler would cause some distortions in the weld under high heat.


UBERTEG: It takes a very good welder to be able to do it right. I've seen "professional" welders faulter on welding aluminum. I know someone that can weld the two, but he won't do it often.


[Modified by tzsir, 11:26 PM 1/23/2003]
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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Easy...........TIG and a high nickel filler rod.

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I know somebody had to know their sh!te out there. It's nt recommended though because of the different expansion rates, and that whole electrolosis thing going on. Not to mention the filler would cause some distortions in the weld under high heat.


UBERTEG: It takes a very good welder to be able to do it right. I've seen "professional" welders faulter on welding aluminum. I know someone that can weld the two, but he won't do it often.


[Modified by tzsir, 11:26 PM 1/23/2003]
I kno its hard.. the guy did it by the book, he used a nickel rod and preheated the **** out of it. The different heat expansion rates just owned it I took it to 2 diff welders.
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