would timing map be the same?

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:45 AM
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would timing map be the same if u switched out to a bigger turbo?

is timing pulled according to horsepower or is is pulled according to boost pressure?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Default Re: would timing map be the same? (b_ron007)

i would make it a little more conservative even at lower boost because you will be making more power per psi.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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^^^^BUMP^^^^

come one guys......wanna look but not answer? IMO this is a really good question.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:57 AM
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^^^BUMP^^^

come on guys! is this not a good question? or is it that u guys dont know?
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 04:42 AM
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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Default Re: (b_ron007)

Timing is determined by charge density and the optimum length of burn before you blow it all out the exhaust valve.

When you say "switch to a bigger turbo" there are two aspects to address - one of which, the turbine, you may be ASSuming stays the same and just thinking of compressor.

A bigger compressor - not always but usually with most T3/4 and GT stuff - is more efficient at any boost level. You get denser fuel:air charge, at a cooler temp and have to fire the mixture sooner until thermal mass of burning charge overcomes cooler temps and you start pulling timing again.

A bigger turbine effectively lowers exhaust manifold pressure, allows the spent (spending? ) charge to evacuate the chamber sooner, which can (not will always!) like more ignition timing to start things off a touch sooner. Less hot side pressures also translate to less reversion, and less chamber temps because less hot exhaust is hanging around the head/exhaust port/exhaust valve to keep things hot. Refer back to combustion temps, thermal mass, comments in re denser, cooler charge in the above paragraph.

There's a lot of give + take, not really any one general trend for ignition. You'd be surprised how particular it can be if you want to be wholly **** about it - most timing maps I see are generic, operating off the retard + advance whole columns until she doesn't knock theory aka expediency.
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