m R g S r

I just got my block back from earl. Sleeves look awsome!
This is what I had done:

Benson Sleeves
Cp 81.5mm pistons
Manley Full-Race Rods
Micropolish/balance crank
Bored/honed blah blah
Blocked oil squirters
ACL bearings
Re-surface deck

What will be added:

All new:
OEM oil pump
OEM water pump
OEM seal/gasket kit
OEM timing belt
Fluidamper harmonic balancer
ARP headstuds
OEM headgasket

Here are some pictures:






I can't wait to get it all in and tuned by Jeff Evans!

11psiTurboSI

Nice block Why not go with a bigger bore while you were at it?

done

that **** is HOTTT

FOrSfEd

Block looks damn good

legendboy

Badass

m R g S r

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 9psiTurboSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice block Why not go with a bigger bore while you were at it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I ordered (supposedly) 81mm cp pistons through Race Engineering, and I was going to use stock sleeves. The pistons didn't fit in the bore, I never knew why. Then I decided to send the block to earl for sleeves, and I had already purchased the pistons. So I just decided to stick with the bore I had.

A day or two after earl got the block he calls me to tell me the pistons were actually 81.5mm.

MooreBoost

Whats the benefit of blocking the oil squirters?

m R g S r

Higher oil pressure, you dont need em for forged pistons anyway.

PM-Performance

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegunderpressure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats the benefit of blocking the oil squirters?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I was jsut about to ask this. I cant think of any off the top of my head

BTW bigger bore isnt always better. There is nothing wrong with 81-81.5mm. Dont need to follow everyone else

m R g S r

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I was jsut about to ask this. I cant think of any off the top of my head

BTW bigger bore isnt always better. There is nothing wrong with 81-81.5mm. Dont need to follow everyone else</TD></TR></TABLE>

True, I can deal with a 200rpm slower spool. Or whatever the difference is between 81.5mm and 84mm.
I'll just run more boost to make up for the hp/tq difference of a 1.8L b16.

Boost Addict

damn, that block is hot

11psiTurboSI

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BTW bigger bore isnt always better. There is nothing wrong with 81-81.5mm. Dont need to follow everyone else</TD></TR></TABLE>


Yea... but it wouldn't hurt.

m R g S r

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Yea... but it wouldn't hurt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea it would, it would hurt my pocket. I would have had to sell the pistons, taken a loss on em, and bought new ones. Either way, the block is already built, I'll see how much power I can make with it. I'm hopin 550whp (GSR head, gonna build it, ITR cams)

g2turbo

Im a fan of stock bore (81mm) as well. Less weight on the rotating assembly, stronger sleeve, room for a rebuild if the cylinder wall is damaged. And its still extremely common to make 500+ whp.

Boostage

I thought Bensons/Earl always use new oil and water pumps?

leadfoot78

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Higher oil pressure, you dont need em for forged pistons anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I blocked the oil squirters in my GSR block too, when I first started it the oil pressure shot up to almost 90psi, then it settled at idle at like 38psi. The same block with the squirters, old oil pump and stock internals had idle oil pressure of 18-20psi. If you ask me that is a **** load of pressure for idle, I'm hoping that it was because i was using non detergent oil.

The Original Whitey

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I was jsut about to ask this. I cant think of any off the top of my head

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The only benefit would be a decrease in windage. They also say the squirters are not needed with the aluminum pistons. IMO I'd leave the squirters there for piece of mind.

boosted92

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Yea... but it wouldn't hurt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes it certainly can. I had a block sleeved for my wife, 84.5MM, 9:1 pistons, all the good stuff. Wasn't tuned on the ragged edge or anything, guess what happened when she got a bad tank of gas on a warm day? Ka-boom, busted up all the ringlands. Couldn't reuse the motor because the bore's were scared so I had to bore it out, and I certainly wasn't putting boost to an 85.5MM motor. I sold the bare core (block + crank) for 600 bucks, kept the rods, and got a new motor built. Cost me 1800 dollars to find another core in the junkyard and get it sleeved again, that's 1200 dollars out of pocket because I wanted to get the most displacement. If I went 81.5MM like I originally planned, I could go order a set of off the shelf 83MM pistons for 450 bucks, have the motor re-machined, and have her car back on the road in a week and a half.

He has to have a hell of a time working to afford a big $$$ sleeved block, a very new 97 integra, and all sorts of other good parts for the car, balancing that with school, especially if he's going post secondary. I don't think he needs to **** around with going 84MM just so he can get 10 more horsepower.

done

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes it certainly can. I had a block sleeved for my wife, 84.5MM, 9:1 pistons, all the good stuff. Wasn't tuned on the ragged edge or anything, guess what happened when she got a bad tank of gas on a warm day? Ka-boom, busted up all the ringlands. Couldn't reuse the motor because the bore's were scared so I had to bore it out, and I certainly wasn't putting boost to an 85.5MM motor. I sold the bare core (block + crank) for 600 bucks, kept the rods, and got a new motor built. Cost me 1800 dollars to find another core in the junkyard and get it sleeved again, that's 1200 dollars out of pocket because I wanted to get the most displacement. If I went 81.5MM like I originally planned, I could go order a set of off the shelf 83MM pistons for 450 bucks, have the motor re-machined, and have her car back on the road in a week and a half.

He has to have a hell of a time working to afford a big $$$ sleeved block, a very new 97 integra, and all sorts of other good parts for the car, balancing that with school, especially if he's going post secondary. I don't think he needs to **** around with going 84MM just so he can get 10 more horsepower.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you couldnt resleeve the motor you had?

Ti3d in

Keeping the displacement close to the original specs is actually good cause you might make too much torque, and lose too much traction on the street. You'll make more power with more displacement, but you might not be able to put it to use.

PM-Performance

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Yea... but it wouldn't hurt.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Have you had an over bore motor like that? I have had both and I can tell you the overbore isnt as much of a gain as you think. I garuntee my spool was exactly the same on both and the tq from the bigger bore didnt shoot thru the roof like i thought. trust me, its not needed or a HUGE benefit like people think it is.

boosted92

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you couldnt resleeve the motor you had?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I could have, but at the time I thought I would have been able to find a core for cheap enough that it would have been less expensive to buy another core and haave that one resleeved. Only cost me a a couple hundred bucks extra out of pocket, so it wasn't a huge dela.

kobi2002

So what about 82 mm? Just bought a block sleeved. I to was never a fan of 84mm because of the no room for error.

PrettyLude

great job once again earl and benson

SlowTeg

Yup that a pretty simple solution.. Just go 82 or 83mm bore, which are shelf stock pistons now.. That leaves plenty of room for error w/ NO disadvantages. More displacement is almost always better.

-Mike