Yes, they're not top shelf turbos, I don't dispute that, however the bandwagon here is that they'll kill somebody upon explosion the minute it goes to WOT. I see that as an outlandish claim attempting to cause panic over a very unlikely event.

 

for a car that wont do 10's of thousands of miles an ebay turbo is fine but the risk is always there. if it wasnt for the smoking mine was going strong and made boost fast. the replacement was 180$ shipped lol..but i drive 30k a year id be replacing a unit anually f that

its unlikley theyll just grenade but it happens on high high boost

 

You or anyone else has never hear ME say any such thing. I just shake my head when people cheap out and then have to turn around and spend money twice on something they could have bought once. If the turbo destroys itself and maybe takes your engine with it then you people sing a different story OR never pipe up to TELL your story out of pure embarrassment.

 

BorgWarner has a production facility in Ningbo, China:
Garrett (Honeywell) has a turbocharger facility in Wuhan, China: http://turbo.honeywell.com/whats-new...hina/]SHANGHAI, January 17, 2012 –

Holset manufactures turbochargers in Jiangsu, China:
http://www.holset.com/mainsite/files/1_1_2-China.php

Might want to be careful referring to "Chinese" turbos as "timebombs" when everyone is making them over there. I know what you meant and you certainly get what you pay for, but "Chinese" turbos are not the problem... shitty QC, engineering, and manufacturing methods are. These problems can be present regardless of where the turbocharger is made.

 

I think "Chinese turbos" are just a euphemism for "shitty". Like saying Ebay parts are crap when Ebay isn't a manufacturer of anything. it doesn't matter where they are made, it comes down to HOW they are made.

 

Well, if/when it does I'll be sure to post the carnage. In case you missed it, it's going in with a junkyard engine to get the car running while the nicer engine is built. The longevity of the turbo and first engine is of really no concern.

 

It still doesn't make a lick of sense. If you don't have the money to do it right then don't do it at all. Just another punk *** kid trying to be cool is all it boils down to. If you are a grown man, check your shorts, it's still small. Save your money for college or invest it wisely in something else. Nobody wants to hear a sob story about how you can't afford something, because if you wreck near me and cause a problem with me or my family, what you won't afford is the legal bill - I promise you that.

For somebody that "builds" these "high" horsepower engines to be proud enough to say they do this sort of thing, you will no longer be taken seriously. If your customers agree with you, well then they are all jokes too. It is just like the same **** with this SmartFire Injector nonsense, all ignorance.

For the idiot who brings up where manufacturing is done - Wow, you are so smart to figure that one out. I have news for you kid, China owns us. You think its bad now, just wait until the government disarms us and the dollar tanks worse that it already has. Most of the stuff "Made in the USA" is still made with stuff from overseas. There are many reasons for this move of manufacturing, and the government is the main cause of most of them. The term "Chinese Turbo" was clearly referring to the ones that are copies of quality units. If you can't read through this and figure that out, you are about as dense as tungsten.

 

Oh no! You won't take me seriously anymore?! I can't have that! LMAO

 

Well you never even were anyways, you supposedly build higher power things and don't even know about hot torquing? And to top it off say platform doesn't matter? That is pathetic in itself.

 

Aren't you the same guy that said there are no tricks, and then turned right around to say you've been hot torquing for 20 years? Yeah, that was you. And you're clearly getting senile if you really think I had never heard of hot torquing. The heads were already on and the engine was getting dressed when I made that thread.

You just move along and keep acting like you know everything. I think there's still some debate over who helped CaliDad the most, so you may want to get back in that fight.

 

This topic has gone way off course
If you two want to argue then take it to PM. We all know things are made else where than America is because of labor fees.

 

Not exactly true. The government imposes strict environmental laws that other countries do not (especially China) as well as heavy taxes and other regulations. The labor costs do help, but when you have to ship everything halfway around the world it changes things some. It is cheaper to buy a shipping container send it to the USA and leave it here than it is to ship it back. The government destroyed the manufacturing here, no question about that.

To EG, AS I have said before, if you would have included more information I would have taken a different approach. Do not even try to insult me, you aren't even close to my level.

 

Yeah, I just get touchy about that because I work with (high quality) Chinese manufacturing on a daily basis. It's possible to make great parts in China if you actually care about the end product.

 

There's a difference between location of manufacture and the technological transfers and specifications that are used as a standard.

And for Garrett, those facilities are being shut down as of 2014, due to contract negotiations.. Ask me how I know

 

The cummins/holset plant was built to help supply turbos to China's (high quality) diesel engines, gensets as well as other companies in Europe and such.

Yes, our government has driven almost all production overseas... I worked at a local machine shop where we made things for very large companies, and in bulk at that... but I can tell you first hand our parts cost more than an equivalent part made overseas, including shipping here. We also had to have a part made in China because a domestic company couldn't get the price point down to where our client needed it to be. So you can find high quality parts made in China, Taiwan, and India.. it just takes some looking

The bulk of the overseas market is simply copying name brand parts.

And as for the BMW clone, BMW even took the company to court and lost because the Chinese company changed enough on the production vehicle to not be an exact copy.... must be nice having no copyright infringement laws
Plenty of quality things are made overseas, have any of you actually stopped and looked at things you buy/are in your house? 9/10 are imported

 

True story
I seen it on top gear and read about it but we all know its a copy

 

The creator of this video claims the turbo is a garrett.

 

Apparently its IMPOSSIBLE for a garrett to blow up..... According to everybody here, if a turbo fails then that means its an ebay turbo...

 

thats not the point we are trying to make.

 

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. It most likely isn't... Hence the reason why they do "burst tests". Remember as well Garrett are a HUGE OEM supplier - meaning they HAVE TO BE up to scratch. They just can not let their standards slip. Specially where safety is a concern.

 

As was stated before, as soon as you modify/change the wheels, it is no longer a factory unit. If you actually read his build thread he vaguely skims what was done to the turbo, but enough to know it isn't a factory unit anymore. What is with these kids these days, they do 5 seconds of research and know it all.

 

You are 12 years old and add absolutely NOTHING to this forum. Get a clue kid, you obviously have no comprehension skills and sadly use multiple user accounts to stir trouble. If you don't knock it off, I am going to tell your mom to cut you off for a week or two and your social life will be ruined forever.

 

lol i was kinda bummed when i realized the turbo i looked up was not a genuine unit from a garrett dealer. it had a precision ex. housing and custom wheels. on a garrett compressor cover/center section. it works great and wheels are beefed up....but who knows what r n r went into the rebuild? so far so good. saved a few needed bucks on it at least.

only story i got was built and balaced by a performance shop in cali...with a phone number lol

 

So the title of this thread should read "why modified garrett turbos are literally timebombs"?

 

Someone should lock this thread. It's obvious we have those that defend these knock off turbo as if there god send because they can finally turbocharge there motor on the cheap. Ill tell you what, let me know when ford, mazada, Toyota, dodge, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, Honda, Mitsubishi or any other top auto manufacture starts to use Godspeed, JDM sport or any other no name knock off turbo on there manufacture vehicles. Until then you simply don't have an argument.