where to get a motor built this winter
10-22-2002, 07:34 AM
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where to get a motor built this winter
cliff notes : where to get a motor built?
i have been reading the forum for a couple months now and finally decided to get my own account. anyways, i am from south dakota and street driving in my turbo gsr civic is kinda dangerous. so i decided to get a winter car and work on the beast. so i was wondering, what suggestions everyone had with where to get a motor built? i have searched and seen some good and bad posts about a lot or places, so can i get some opinions please??? i currently have a stock block, stock head with a airresearch t3 (might upgrade to t3/t4e this winter too, $$$ depending). i am definitely planning on pistons and rods for sure, maybe get the block sleeved to 84.5mm. so those of you with built motor, can you please reply with your experiences, setups, and costs. thanks in advance!!!
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golden eagle
darton
jg
jotech
............ others?
[Modified by ID_ten_T, 4:55 PM 10/22/2002]
i have been reading the forum for a couple months now and finally decided to get my own account. anyways, i am from south dakota and street driving in my turbo gsr civic is kinda dangerous. so i decided to get a winter car and work on the beast. so i was wondering, what suggestions everyone had with where to get a motor built? i have searched and seen some good and bad posts about a lot or places, so can i get some opinions please??? i currently have a stock block, stock head with a airresearch t3 (might upgrade to t3/t4e this winter too, $$$ depending). i am definitely planning on pistons and rods for sure, maybe get the block sleeved to 84.5mm. so those of you with built motor, can you please reply with your experiences, setups, and costs. thanks in advance!!!
import builders
golden eagle
darton
jg
jotech
............ others?
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10-22-2002, 09:49 AM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (hondadriven)
i did couple of race motor builds for customer around here we did justagsr and rondigs motor ls vtec setup is done as well wiht a correct machined girdle installed with dowel pins.. its very nice we ahve about 3 more to complete as soon as GE ships us blocks back. If you want i can give you a quote ...
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10-22-2002, 10:07 AM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (ID_ten_T)
Viren, do you build the motors your self there at VS Racing? What kind of tools do you use to measure bore and piston size and crank bearing clearances?
10-22-2002, 10:19 AM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (top notch)
Yes,
we measure the gap with a feelguage testing by following these steps
Test the upper limit of ring travel with the feeler guage then the lower limit and measure that and verify in the piston to wall clearance is in spec compared to what was given.
We match the piston to each cyl. some pistons are not true in there sizing. We select 4 pistons and place them before we bore the cyl to match. We plastiguage the clearances on the bearings and check and verify the deck height. Alot of customers blocks are coming back wiht deck heights that exceed manufacture tolerances for factory head gasket height. we reccommend usuing a .048 gasket on most motors since most of them have been decked.
We also insepct the bushings in the rods themselves. The eagle rods have weak bushings when installed improperly. We have been seeing a few customers come back to us to fix there motors. The bushing on there rods were fucked up .
we use also many micrometer to check everyhting out .
we measure the gap with a feelguage testing by following these steps
Test the upper limit of ring travel with the feeler guage then the lower limit and measure that and verify in the piston to wall clearance is in spec compared to what was given.
We match the piston to each cyl. some pistons are not true in there sizing. We select 4 pistons and place them before we bore the cyl to match. We plastiguage the clearances on the bearings and check and verify the deck height. Alot of customers blocks are coming back wiht deck heights that exceed manufacture tolerances for factory head gasket height. we reccommend usuing a .048 gasket on most motors since most of them have been decked.
We also insepct the bushings in the rods themselves. The eagle rods have weak bushings when installed improperly. We have been seeing a few customers come back to us to fix there motors. The bushing on there rods were fucked up .
we use also many micrometer to check everyhting out .
10-22-2002, 10:27 AM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (b18bturbo)
Yes,
we measure the gap with a feelguage testing by following these steps
Test the upper limit of ring travel with the feeler guage then the lower limit and measure that and verify in the piston to wall clearance is in spec compared to what was given.
We match the piston to each cyl. some pistons are not true in there sizing. We select 4 pistons and place them before we bore the cyl to match. We plastiguage the clearances on the bearings and check and verify the deck height. Alot of customers blocks are coming back wiht deck heights that exceed manufacture tolerances for factory head gasket height. we reccommend usuing a .048 gasket on most motors since most of them have been decked.
We also insepct the bushings in the rods themselves. The eagle rods have weak bushings when installed improperly. We have been seeing a few customers come back to us to fix there motors. The bushing on there rods were fucked up .
we use also many micrometer to check everyhting out .
we measure the gap with a feelguage testing by following these steps
Test the upper limit of ring travel with the feeler guage then the lower limit and measure that and verify in the piston to wall clearance is in spec compared to what was given.
We match the piston to each cyl. some pistons are not true in there sizing. We select 4 pistons and place them before we bore the cyl to match. We plastiguage the clearances on the bearings and check and verify the deck height. Alot of customers blocks are coming back wiht deck heights that exceed manufacture tolerances for factory head gasket height. we reccommend usuing a .048 gasket on most motors since most of them have been decked.
We also insepct the bushings in the rods themselves. The eagle rods have weak bushings when installed improperly. We have been seeing a few customers come back to us to fix there motors. The bushing on there rods were fucked up .
we use also many micrometer to check everyhting out .
10-22-2002, 10:59 AM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (b18bturbo)
i did couple of race motor builds for customer around here we did justagsr and rondigs motor ls vtec setup is done as well wiht a correct machined girdle installed with dowel pins.. its very nice we ahve about 3 more to complete as soon as GE ships us blocks back. If you want i can give you a quote ...
10-22-2002, 11:23 AM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (ID_ten_T)
Viren, do you build the motors your self? Also...you only use plastigauge to measure bearing clearance? You dont use pro tools like a snap gauge to measure maincap and rod bearing to crank clearances?
10-22-2002, 11:51 AM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (ID_ten_T)
cliff notes : where to get a motor built?
10-22-2002, 12:13 PM
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (ID_ten_T)
There is no reason to go such big bore. Your car is turbo, you make your power and torqe with the turbo, not so much the bore. EVERYONE needs to realise your much better keeping your walls thick and running more boost. If you bored it out that much, what happens if you hurt a wall or a piston? Say goodbye to your brand new sleeved block cause you cant bore it out anymore. Why not get more life out of your sleeves?
10-22-2002, 12:48 PM
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Viren.
The only other person I would trust to assemble my shorty besides myself would be Viren. His proof is in the pudding.
--Adam
PS Earl/Mike have some proof in the pudding too
Both of these guys are out to help people go fast and preserve some wallet at the same time... not to make a killing.
[Modified by Dublocivic, 4:51 PM 10/22/2002]
--Adam
PS Earl/Mike have some proof in the pudding too
Both of these guys are out to help people go fast and preserve some wallet at the same time... not to make a killing.
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10-22-2002, 05:40 PM
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Re: Viren. (Dublocivic)
First person that contacts me that needs a motor built, I will do it for pocket change with the person paying for the parts involved.
PS...this is only if the person wants to do it right to my HIGH standards of what a motor should be built like.
[Modified by ninesecrx, 2:42 AM 10/23/2002]
PS...this is only if the person wants to do it right to my HIGH standards of what a motor should be built like.
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Re: Viren. (ninesecrx)
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... me!!!
First person that contacts me that needs a motor built, I will do it for pocket change with the person paying for the parts involved.
PS...this is only if the person wants to do it right to my HIGH standards of what a motor should be built like.
[Modified by ninesecrx, 2:42 AM 10/23/2002]
PS...this is only if the person wants to do it right to my HIGH standards of what a motor should be built like.
[Modified by ninesecrx, 2:42 AM 10/23/2002]
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Re: Viren. (ninesecrx)
ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
I STARTED THIS POST!!!
also, if anyone pm'ed me. i cant recieve pm's cuz i am a noobie. hit me up here or on email. thanks.
I STARTED THIS POST!!!
also, if anyone pm'ed me. i cant recieve pm's cuz i am a noobie. hit me up here or on email. thanks.
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Re: where to get a motor built this winter (ninesecrx)
There is no reason to go such big bore. Your car is turbo, you make your power and torqe with the turbo, not so much the bore. EVERYONE needs to realise your much better keeping your walls thick and running more boost. If you bored it out that much, what happens if you hurt a wall or a piston? Say goodbye to your brand new sleeved block cause you cant bore it out anymore. Why not get more life out of your sleeves?
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