a1320honda

Tryin to figure out if i can get by with Pro for another year on my setup.

Benson block
CP 9.1
eagle rods
Borg warner S366
victor x manifold
pro 1 cams
gsr head
valves, springs, and retainers


basicly looking for 650whp on 112, can i get it done with crome?

Also would like to see whats the highest hp crome cars out there.

0mtber

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It can be done, but why would you want to skimp on the most important part of your setup ?

Using Hondata s300, eCtune, Neptune would be much better choices.

98vtec

good luck with that

that just puts chills down my backbone.

harhoosh

no dyno # but went 10.7 @ 132 on crome.

B20 vtec stock sleeve, SC61 at 24 psi.

FastechAccord

I made 494 whp at 18 psi on my H22, and havent had any problems out of the car. It has run for well over a year on that setup with no issues.

a1320honda

well im about 450 right now on 15psi ls/vtec and its perfect. idk, just spending sooo much money on the build this winter i just dont have the budget for another program.

98vtec

if you are running crome pro, ectune is 199 away.

Running925

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are running crome pro, ectune is 199 away.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but doesn't that lock your emulator out from using crome ever again? (ie. your other vehicles, or your buddy's car)

418whpturboD

well at least it is crome pro and not reagular crome..

turbo boost

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Running925 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but doesn't that lock your emulator out from using crome ever again? (ie. your other vehicles, or your buddy's car)</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes which sucks...and is the reason why me and alot of the people i know wont buy ectune
crome worked fine for me ive never had a problem with it
to each his own i guess..

418whpturboD

steve i think you sould keep crome pro and show everyone that YOU can make mad power with it..

Kris's turbo

I am running crome pro, and I am making 600hp with a 35r on a built b16. Hope that helps.

Kris

98vtec

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yes which sucks...and is the reason why me and alot of the people i know wont buy ectune
crome worked fine for me ive never had a problem with it
to each his own i guess..</TD></TR></TABLE>

no...it doesnt. The ostrich serial is stored in a database so you can lock and unlock the emulator as you please.

Running925

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yes which sucks...and is the reason why me and alot of the people i know wont buy ectune
crome worked fine for me ive never had a problem with it
to each his own i guess..</TD></TR></TABLE>

it was definatly a big turn-off for me when i heard that, just didn't know if they had changed it or not.

I've been using Crome Pro for the last 3 years and i plan to continue as well.

Yes there are other things out there that have some extra nice features, but for the general population, i'd say crome gets the job done well. Only thing i wish i had was an anti-lag that worked as well as my buddy's neptune.

turbo boost

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no...it doesnt. The ostrich serial is stored in a database so you can lock and unlock the emulator as you please.</TD></TR></TABLE>

o ok i didnt know you could lock and unlock the emulator with ectune

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agreed

boosted k20

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it was definatly a big turn-off for me when i heard that, just didn't know if they had changed it or not.

I've been using Crome Pro for the last 3 years and i plan to continue as well.

Yes there are other things out there that have some extra nice features, but for the general population, i'd say crome gets the job done well. Only thing i wish i had was an anti-lag that worked as well as my buddy's neptune.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Upgrade to Crome GOLD and you will have the same anti-lag as Neptune/Hondata/eCtune etc. I use CromeGOLD on all the cars i tune. IMO it runs the car better than PRO

a1320honda

ya if you use the "Gold" base then you have a real boost building anti-lag. im building 15psi in about 2 seconds. I love Crome...its very easy to use and ive know a couple peope who went to Neptune and were lost and never got it to work right.

Heres the anti-lag....im on the right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdUlYxeF_4k

Turbogixxer

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Upgrade to Crome GOLD and you will have the same anti-lag as Neptune/Hondata/eCtune etc. I use CromeGOLD on all the cars i tune. IMO it runs the car better than PRO</TD></TR></TABLE>

Crome does NOT have the same anti-lag as Neptune/Hondata/Ectune.

Neptune/hondata/Ectune is much better.

.CUBISH.

lol..kenny you should post a sound clip of your ign cut..

Turbogixxer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .CUBISH. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol..kenny you should post a sound clip of your ign cut..</TD></TR></TABLE>

not mine, but on a NA car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ3wBEY2e7g

.CUBISH.

yeah yours is a bit more extreme... feel like im in the middle of a iraqy air strike..lol

PrecisionH23a

Crome Pro is only rated at 649whp. Anything above that and the engine will blow up.

It's not always about power... it's about the options and amount of manipulation you have over your ECU. With race cars you really want all of the bells and whistles possible... that's just a given. If you've noticed the type of people that use Crome usually are budget builds or people who do DIY tuning. I refuse to work with this program because I just don't have time to dick around with running into problems on the dyno. That's just my .02.

Here's a clip of the s300 anti-lag on a car I took out to the track last weekend. Nothing too special.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd2Kv2YLWp8


Modified by PrecisionH23a at 7:47 PM 11/3/2008

418whpturboD

that sounds like regular crome 2 step..

a1320honda

all i know is i can leave on 15+psi. im not gonna pick a management cause of how the antilag sounds. It seems that Pro is pretty well formed. Maybe in the future, but i guess for now Crome is gonna have to do it.

Tony the Tiger

Here's one of my dyno videos of a Civic tuned on ECTune... Near the end of the video there is a small clip of the ALS/2-step. So far, I've never encountered any Crome tuned car getting anywhere near the true timing-retard + fuel + rev cut in the same fashion except for the AEM EMS...


ECTune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOweM83xBvE


AEM EMS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRuhAxmJEDE