huntarrr

Came with the drag kit... i was told it was a Spearco by the seller. Later, I was told that the core looks nothing like a Spearco.. Do any of you know?

wantboost

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drag3 intercooler, uses a spearco core

huntarrr

so does this look like a spearco core or no?

wantboost

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turbotime

yup, i got the same one- its pretty good for up to 300ish whp

huntarrr

so drag doesn't use any other cores?

thanks.

tony1

Yeah, it's the drag ic, i'm not sure that it's a spearco core though. Those things suck, sorry. They're a little better than no ic. Spend a couple bucks and get a garrett/precision core...

nsxmatt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vsm98civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so drag doesn't use any other cores?

thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe it was answered before... twice.

huntarrr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe it was answered before... twice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Apologies.. I didn't know if there were different 'stages' of Drag kits, or if all the fmic's were the same from kit to kit. Say, if the integra drag fmic was the same as the civic drag fmic.


But.. I'm not too worried if it sucks. I spent $215 shipped for everything in the picture, so as long as it does its job (200whp on a d-series), then I'm fine with it.

nsxmatt

The Drag IC is good to 400whp. It's a good IC for the money and it will fit under the bumper support and mine never got heat soaked.

tony1

I don't think that ic is very efficient at that power level. Why do you say it is?

nsxmatt

At 400whp it's not, but for the power he is making (less than 300whp) it's a good setup and should do him well.

tony1

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nsxmatt

What's not hard to understand? The IC will flow and is rated up to 400whp, at the 400whp level it's not the most efficent intercooler but will work. He is not planning but half that power so the intercooler will work fine for him without having to spend $600 on a marked up overkill IC like you suggested.

crxnj

What's wrong with that intercooler ? Looks pretty thin but is still efficient as long as you don't go over the limit..

tony1

So what makes it "rated" to 400hp? If it's inefficient at less than 400hp, where do you get 400hp from? You can mek 500hp on it, why not say it's good for 500hp? Because it's so inefficient at those power levels that it's really hurting performance. And i'd hardly say a $400 garrett intercooler is a marked up overkill ic...

igo4bmx

i gotta mention this IC works well with 99-00 fogs

nsxmatt

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what makes it "rated" to 400hp? If it's inefficient at less than 400hp, where do you get 400hp from? You can mek 500hp on it, why not say it's good for 500hp? Because it's so inefficient at those power levels that it's really hurting performance. And i'd hardly say a $400 garrett intercooler is a marked up overkill ic... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I really don't know what makes it rated, just the fact they can run a power level without heatsoaking the IC or running crazy intake temps. I did alot of research when running my old Drag setup and found many people running the drag setup at the 400whp level and working fine. I can't say another IC would make more power, i'm sure nobody could without testing them back to back. I'm sure a $400 garrett IC would be a little more efficient, but for double the cost of his IC and piping kit and for the power he is making it's not worth it.

93supercoupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. I'm sure a $400 garrett IC would be a little more efficient, but for double the cost of his IC and piping kit and for the power he is making it's not worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree

tony1

There's another thing to look at, that's ofter overlooked. Pressure drop, a small ic like that has ALOT of pressure drop at big hp levels, that's the more limiting factor than efficiency. It's fine for 250-300hp, but past that it really starts becomming a burden.

nsxmatt

I thought it was the other way around? Why does it have pressure drop?

tony1

That's the common misconception. Think about it. You're trying to cram a ton of air through a small hole, what happens? The hole is a restriction and will cause more pressure on the inlet side than the outlet side. A big ic is not as much of a restriction, so there is less pressure drop. IC efficiency is only a small part of the equation with intercoolers. The cross sectional area of the core is very important. That drag ic is short and very thin...

yee SERIOUS

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what if the IC is short and thick? does that make up for some length? my ic is 26inches long, but is 3.5inches thick. would that be ok for up to 300hp?

i guess for this guy, he can't beat the price. he can always resell the ic and get a new one. just keep the pipes. but for his goals, it's fine.

tony1

Thickness and height make way more difference than length...