sony224422

im gunna take the head off my car to replace the head gasket before i turbo, and i was thinking of doing the rings too, to keep the compression up. What should i use.. and is there anything else i should replace? What hp are the pistons good for, and what about ringlands.


What are good parts to use as well..?

eh3 93

Why change just the rings? Might as well swap to forged pistons.

sony224422

is it worth it.. i mean i might eventually take the turbo kit off or i might go NA, i just figured i should do it all at once.

Peter Brady onlyonweekndz

you are basically wanting to do a rebuild...bearings, rings, gaskets. oil, water pump ect. id stick under 300hp if your using stock internals.. how many miles does the motor have?

sony224422

130k, i haven't even checked compression yet, i jsut know the stock ringlands are the weakest link

(f22b2)

Peter Brady onlyonweekndz

don't those motors have aluminum sleeves?

sony224422

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no iron. they are sleeved already from the factory..

Tippyman

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Lol. Every motor is sleeved from the factory. It's what creates the main part of the combustion chamber.

The afct that they are iron sleeves actually makes building the engine more difficult. You can't just slap pistons in there because they will get fucked up fast. You have to re-sleeve the motor to put forged goodies inside.

sony224422

hmm.. all ive heard is that these engines love boost, once you change out the ringlands. I suppose i will have to ask in the accord fourm as well.. but how about some quality companies for this stuff?

93CX

Personally I'd just turbo your motor in its stock form until it blows up, then replace. F22 longblocks are cheaper than rebuilding one.

Tippyman

You can't change out the ringlands. The ringland is built into the piston.

sony224422

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i know nothing. teach me. hahaha.


maybe its the stock rings then.

sony224422

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meh, this car hasn't given me any problems at all, i've had it since 40k, so i'd like to take care of it while its boosted as well. I mean as it sits right now, it runs top notch, minus some vavle tick.

Tippyman

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No. OEM rings can take much more power than you could ever possibly make. The pistons will fail.

sony224422

well, i guess it doesn't matter since i want to make around 200-250 whp, i was just concerned about blowing up. But it doesn't look like i will.. and if i do it won't be for a long time. I guess i'll just do the headgasket and studs.

Tippyman

That's what I would do. A friend of mine actually just made over 400 hp on a stock block.

sony224422

ahh i might shoot for that eventually, im just turbo'ing my auto lol. If it starts to f up i'll swap it out, but i have faith with a tranny cooler i should be set.. plus no loss of boost while shifting

PHDZINE

For the power you want to make...there is no point in just changing the headgasket and studs. You'll probably blow that tranny before your engine blows up.