What breaks on a boosted honda motor??????
06-09-2004, 11:04 AM
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What breaks on a boosted honda motor??????
Yea i know i need rods and low comp pistons, and crank and all that, but why do still need to sleeve the block for, what part of the sleeves brake, what can i do to prevent them from braking??
06-09-2004, 11:21 AM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (FwdCivicHatch)
the sleeves wont break with proper tuning. normally the thing that fails with hondas is the pistons.
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06-09-2004, 11:29 AM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (92CivicLS)
3 main things that break are:
Rods
Pistons
Sleeves
if u do the first two, and do a good tunning, u can avoid the 3rd one from breaking
Honda stock sleeves are prooven to hold plenty power, with the right tunning.....
as long as u avoid detonation, u shall be ok
Rods
Pistons
Sleeves
if u do the first two, and do a good tunning, u can avoid the 3rd one from breaking
Honda stock sleeves are prooven to hold plenty power, with the right tunning.....
as long as u avoid detonation, u shall be ok
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06-09-2004, 01:31 PM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (USDM 4G VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDM 4G VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3 main things that break are:
Rods
Pistons
Sleeves
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With good tuning they can support ALOT more hp than most people realize...IMO the biggest weak link is the ringlands.
Rods
Pistons
Sleeves
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With good tuning they can support ALOT more hp than most people realize...IMO the biggest weak link is the ringlands.
06-09-2004, 01:46 PM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (2000GSRT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000GSRT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your wallet..... 
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amen to that!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>amen to that!!
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (b18cx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
amen to that!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
amen to that!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
06-10-2004, 03:52 AM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor??????
so then if i do change rods, and pistons, how much boost can the sleeves hold with the right tunning.?? oh yea, is this also vtec motors??? im generaly asking for every kind of motor, but what about vtec motors?
06-10-2004, 05:07 AM
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Ralphy Estevez from DRT in ny runs stock sleeves in his race car which makes well over 600hp.
Ralphy Estevez from DRT in ny runs stock sleeves in his race car which makes well over 600hp.
06-10-2004, 06:00 AM
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Re: (2 point ferio)
Hallo,
i think one thing you forgot in your calculation is the aimed horsepower level...
i think rods i.e. break because of to much stress (menas HP) ... ok when you produce detonation you get extreme high stress to the rods thats clear so you have to avoid them... but i mean if the engine is tuned properly you have no detonation and then rods break from hp stress... so the question must be how much hp did the stock rods can handle?
same for pistons and sleeves, piston rings and so on...?
what is the main problem for sleeves? why do they break? heat? pressure? power?
Greets
Malte.
i think one thing you forgot in your calculation is the aimed horsepower level...
i think rods i.e. break because of to much stress (menas HP) ... ok when you produce detonation you get extreme high stress to the rods thats clear so you have to avoid them... but i mean if the engine is tuned properly you have no detonation and then rods break from hp stress... so the question must be how much hp did the stock rods can handle?
same for pistons and sleeves, piston rings and so on...?
what is the main problem for sleeves? why do they break? heat? pressure? power?
Greets
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06-10-2004, 01:37 PM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (Mpir3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
With good tuning they can support ALOT more hp than most people realize...IMO the biggest weak link is the ringlands.</TD></TR></TABLE>
EXXXXACTLY
With good tuning they can support ALOT more hp than most people realize...IMO the biggest weak link is the ringlands.</TD></TR></TABLE>
EXXXXACTLY
06-10-2004, 01:56 PM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (random-strike)
^^^^ listen to that guy
Damn, Johnny all 4, holy ****. Ive done a few sets of ringlands, but never all 4.
Damn, Johnny all 4, holy ****. Ive done a few sets of ringlands, but never all 4.
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (leed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by leed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^^ listen to that guy
Damn, Johnny all 4, holy ****. Ive done a few sets of ringlands, but never all 4.
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heh yah, no biggie i have 4 more pistons i'm putting in it... i just think that it was spiking and/or creeping to over the PSI we tuned for... so it was "untuned" for some of the time... esp the 65 to 110mph 4th gear pulls
Damn, Johnny all 4, holy ****. Ive done a few sets of ringlands, but never all 4.
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heh yah, no biggie i have 4 more pistons i'm putting in it... i just think that it was spiking and/or creeping to over the PSI we tuned for... so it was "untuned" for some of the time... esp the 65 to 110mph 4th gear pulls
06-11-2004, 04:28 AM
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Re: What breaks on a boosted honda motor?????? (92CivicLS)
thank you guys, its just that im trying to boost, my LS motor, with a friend of mines, we are doing it together.
one more question.
have you guys heard, of an LS head on a b16 bottom or GSR bottom, they say its 8.1:1 comp. and all you have to do is use the LS gasket, and block off the oil pass. from the block, and your done.
what do yuo think guys?? is it true or not.
one more question.
have you guys heard, of an LS head on a b16 bottom or GSR bottom, they say its 8.1:1 comp. and all you have to do is use the LS gasket, and block off the oil pass. from the block, and your done.
what do yuo think guys?? is it true or not.
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