mrbsponge

well me and my pops went to the dyno to have a lil father and son shoot out, he has a 71 big block camaro and i have the civic that everyone has seen.

99 civic SI

B16 still 1.6 liters
stock sleeves
Je Pistons
Crower turbo rods
8.5:1 comp ratio

stock B16 head + skunk2 springs and retainers
no porting
stock intake manifold
RC 440s
str cam gears and fuel rail
stock regulator
stock cams

T3/T4E turbo 57 trim .48 exh, .63 int
28x7x2.5 intercooler
2.5 inch downpipe
2.25 greddy exhaust(major NO NO)

12.5 lbs of boost, im happy its my daily driver

uberdata redneck program with VAFC

ATS*Mark

very nice job , so who won????

turbo*s2k

good #'s!

94gsr4dr

so you made 326whp on a mustang dyno? or is that another car.

B18CXr

Please explain why the dyno operator has your HP@50 set to 16???

That number is way high.

mildly.interesting

because it makes for interesting e-racing

cccya

so your running uber and a VAFC???
and why is your hp@50 set to 16???

mrbsponge

i dont know what that means (hp@50)????

please explain.

my dad only made 276hp but 470ft/lbs of TQ

vtec69

very nice

uglyasscivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know what that means (hp@50)????

please explain.

my dad only made 276hp but 470ft/lbs of TQ</TD></TR></TABLE>

HP@50 mph is the aerodynamic profile if the vehicle that is being tested.
It means it takes 16 hp to cruise at 50mph.
I put all honda's at 11.5.

FredoSP

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HP@50 mph is the aerodynamic profile if the vehicle that is being tested.
It means it takes 16 hp to cruise at 50mph.
I put all honda's at 11.5.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ur from utah, could that be b.c of the elevation?

mrbsponge

i have had 4 different cars dyno'd there and they all say the same thing up top, i use the MD cause im not too worried about the numbers, just that i get a good tune, i was just amazed that my daily driver(not my racecar) made this much HP on a conservative tune.

dunkd

326 hp on a mustang dyno with only 440 injectors??????

94gsr4dr

not to mention 2.25 exhaust, and pretty small turbo.

mrbsponge

i am running uberdata and my injectors are prtty much at thier max....i have alot of members on here that can vouch for actually how fast my coupe really is, i dont know why mine runs so well. when i bought the turbo there are absolutely no markings on it, so i am only going off what the person told me, that it was of course a T3/T4E with a .48 and .63 with a 57 trim. i cant identify any other markings

dunkd

sounds fishy to me... ive never heard of 440's making that much power - its physically impossible. especially because your on a mustang dyno.

why is your base run so so so much lower? what was changed?

mrbsponge

my base run was with 8psi, stock ecu, FMU. my final run was done with uberdata, p28,no fmu, and at 12psi. also my car had alot of time to cool down, if its virtually impossible call the number on the dyno sheet and ask the operator.........i have made more power on another set up with 440 before......man you just cant get people to say "nice job bro"

dunkd

so uve made more than 326hp before with 440cc injectors?

what duty cycle are the injectors at?

sorry not trying to be a dick but i have never seen 440's making this much power before.

mrbsponge

440s at almost 100 percent duty cycle are worth 400, it has been proven many times before. my gsr with a turbo kit made more with almost the exact same setup.

dunkd

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lol - show me that.

SOUNDEFFECTS

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Not possible unless your using a higher fuel pressure then everyone else. The only way that being possible is jacking up the base fuel presure to something like 60psi++ or setting it around a normal 42psi and using a FMU to raise the fuel pressure with each psi of boost a certain amount (12:1, 10:1, 8:1,etc...)

**** if were talking about the most being made on 440's with FMU, 500hp+ has been made time after time BUT only with a FMU is this possible and not the best way. If you were talking about using Uberdata and running a 440cc setup I would say 326whp on a dynojet is almost too good to be true let alone a mustang dyno that everyone claims to produce lower then reality numbers.

I wonder what the numbers would be on a DYNOJET?

dunkd

i have heard that a dynojet is around 15-20% higher than a mustang dyno. i have never seen that relationship first hand though.

juggernaut

"nice job bro"

mrbsponge

well i can only tell you that if you do not believe me then call the guy who owns the dyno, he knows my complete set up.

also i do have an FMU its a vortech 12:1 with the endyne little hole drilled in the stock regulator "trick" so it will idle better

dunkd

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so what was it? with an FMU or without?