simplegreenmachine

i have this off brand wastegate, and im gettin ready to install the turbo kit. and there is this ring. a friend said to put it in the wastegate (the side connected to the manifold). so i tried that and it didnt go in all the way, it barely went in at all. My question is do you need this ring? what happens if you dont run it.

simplegreenmachine

BUMP

H22 CD5

that ring is a step-down. if your wastegate is 35mm but the wastegate flange opening on your manifold is 32mm, then you use that ring to 'step down' your wastegate.

i hope that made sense

simplegreenmachine

so you really dont need it? because i don't know where mine is, and is it fine to run without it?

AllmotorEH2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22 CD5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that ring is a step-down. if your wastegate is 35mm but the wastegate flange opening on your manifold is 32mm, then you use that ring to 'step down' your wastegate.

i hope that made sense</TD></TR></TABLE>

it may also be the valve "seat" and without it, it may creep like a **** because it will not seal properly or efficiently. Pics would really help out though

H22 CD5

well...i'd have to say that it really depends on the size of your wastegate and the the size of the wastegate flange opening on your manifold.
do you know the sizes?


*edit: i think you have the xspower/ssautochrome wastegate. if so, use that ring. without it, your wastegate will leak.

*edit#2: does your wastegate look like this?:

simplegreenmachine

yea, im fucked, i dont know where the ring is.

simplegreenmachine

the thing is, i tried to get it in, and it wouldnt go in, there was a huge gap and it would leak even worst. i dont know what to do.

H22 CD5

don't worry about that gap, the wastegate valve will depress as you tighten the bolts and the gap will close.

Blackack26

the steped side goes into the wastegate, it wont go in all the way. Should stick out 1mm or so.

Keewun

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blackack26 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the steped side goes into the wastegate, it wont go in all the way. Should stick out 1mm or so. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i got the same wastegate.. but mines come with 2 flange.. and one of the flange conncect to 1mm of the ring that stick out.. so i connect the wastegate with the ring inside to the flange that they provide and then connect to the mani wastegate flange... iono if that would work.. and iono if i made any sense at all but thats what i did ..


Modified by Keewun at 5:54 AM 4/6/2006

SL0WEGG

you need the ring! the gap closes as you tighten up the wg as someone else said.

tx_eg_mang

is it even worth it to use ss autochrome as any of your turbo kit parts?

SPOOLINmatt

lol at people that say that if you dont use the ring it will creep. You prolly wont make over 2 pounds of boost IF THAT without that ring because the exhaust will be leaking pass the valve.

Blackack26

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPOOLINmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol at people that say that if you dont use the ring it will creep. You prolly wont make over 2 pounds of boost IF THAT without that ring because the exhaust will be leaking pass the valve. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep. The ring preloads the valve when the wastegate is tightened down so there is no chance of it leaking.

simplegreenmachine

well ****, time to search for it or rig something up. any ideas lol

simplegreenmachine

anyone know where i can get a ring?

boostedcivicsir

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllmotorEH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it may also be the valve "seat" and without it, it may creep like a **** because it will not seal properly or efficiently. Pics would really help out though</TD></TR></TABLE>

it is the other way. if the ring isnt there it will not spool due to an opening in the exhaust.

simplegreenmachine

GOOD NEWS! i found the ring and put it in, is it supposed to be hard to put in and it sticks out a little bit, and it doesnt sit flush on the Manifold, is that how its supposed to be?

White Smoke

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TulowSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GOOD NEWS! i found the ring and put it in, is it supposed to be hard to put in and it sticks out a little bit, and it doesnt sit flush on the Manifold, is that how its supposed to be?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds about right

simplegreenmachine

one more thing, do i just put the gasket on there anyways? even though it doesnt sit flush??

Turbo_y8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tx_eg_mang &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it even worth it to use ss autochrome as any of your turbo kit parts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats where you are wrong. THe only shitty thing is the turbos and the mani's are were complaints are. There are a **** ton of people using xs power ****

H22 CD5

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TulowSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one more thing, do i just put the gasket on there anyways? even though it doesnt sit flush??</TD></TR></TABLE>


yes. go ahead and put on the gasket and tighten everything down. the ring will start to slide up into the wastegate as you tighten the bolts.

boostincoupe

It's funny, I was just dealing with this today. I ordered a 35mm Tial valve seat for my WG, and it wouldn't sit flush for some reason. Now I know why.

Keewun

can i get some pictures of how it sit?.. because iono if i did mines correct lol and will hondabond liquid gasket work? instead of those cheap gasket they provide.. it wont go around the ring